Comments on: THOMPSON OFF IR, FRITZ TO BRIDGEPORTNYI at Boston, 12:00 pm: Talk about the game here http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2008/11/thompson-off-ir-fritz-to-bridgeportnyi-at-boston-1200-pm-talk-about-the-game-here/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=thompson-off-ir-fritz-to-bridgeportnyi-at-boston-1200-pm-talk-about-the-game-here Independent, Daily Coverage Of The New York Islanders Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:59:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: matt http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2008/11/thompson-off-ir-fritz-to-bridgeportnyi-at-boston-1200-pm-talk-about-the-game-here/#comment-9087 matt Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:23:33 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=3648#comment-9087 I love Witt but he isn't playing like himself since coming back. Neither is Martinek. Witt made 4 or 5 weak clearing attempts and gave away the puck for the second goal. Very unusual for him. The defense overall has looked weak. Hopefully just getting the bugs out after the injuries. Our defense is overrated in fans eyes I agree Strummer but they are not playing up to their capabilities. I love Witt but he isn’t playing like himself since coming back. Neither is Martinek. Witt made 4 or 5 weak clearing attempts and gave away the puck for the second goal. Very unusual for him. The defense overall has looked weak. Hopefully just getting the bugs out after the injuries. Our defense is overrated in fans eyes I agree Strummer but they are not playing up to their capabilities.

]]> By: mrlbem http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2008/11/thompson-off-ir-fritz-to-bridgeportnyi-at-boston-1200-pm-talk-about-the-game-here/#comment-9076 mrlbem Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:50:57 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=3648#comment-9076 JP, I saw the Bean Pot Shuffle. It wasn't just Gordon--it was the entire BC team. They just aired Gordon's "segment." I thought it was funny. Billy and Howie got a kick out of it. I don't think it was embarassing. What are you gonna do--have a rule that everyone who does something stupid or a bit off in college is no longer qualified to coach 23 years later? JP,

I saw the Bean Pot Shuffle. It wasn’t just Gordon–it was the entire BC team. They just aired Gordon’s “segment.” I thought it was funny. Billy and Howie got a kick out of it. I don’t think it was embarassing. What are you gonna do–have a rule that everyone who does something stupid or a bit off in college is no longer qualified to coach 23 years later?

]]> By: JPinVA http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2008/11/thompson-off-ir-fritz-to-bridgeportnyi-at-boston-1200-pm-talk-about-the-game-here/#comment-9070 JPinVA Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:34:38 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=3648#comment-9070 Willis, You make a lot of really good points here. But I am going to make the argument (as I had after 10 games) that the gordon system is NOT going to work in the NHL the way it is deployed currently. The players are not prepared to do anything but collapse in their own zone. That may be one of the main reasons why the goaltending has been good... few second chances... but when they get out muscled, they are DOOMED. They often spend 30-45 seconds in their own zone... with no clue how to get the puck out, which leads to icing and with teh new rules (my favorite new rule) they can't change. Also, he has everybody playing that system against every line. It just doesn't work that well agains the top defensive pairings on other teams, and once it's broken it leads to mismatches in their own defensive zones... or spent forwards who have to cover 180 feet of ice every shift. Look what boston did tonight. they ran the isles ragged and then went to a 2 man forecheck (the big miracle of the scott gordon system) in the third and the isles (just like every night.... even when they win) threw up all over themselves. Personnel is a problem, but it has been a problem every year. Take the system and his lack of testicles and I really don't have a whole lot of confidence in scott gordon. I hope he turns it around... but I just don't see it. ...and after watching hte feed from boston, and the Scott gordon shuffle... we're doomed. I hope CB can post a copy of it so we can pre-empt the nightly display of it at MSG... This one is gonna have Islander fans hanging their head in SHAME. If "GO GO" knew what boston was doing on TV he would have personally sent Fritz up to the booth to tear the tape out of the machine. Willis,
You make a lot of really good points here. But I am going to make the argument (as I had after 10 games) that the gordon system is NOT going to work in the NHL the way it is deployed currently.
The players are not prepared to do anything but collapse in their own zone. That may be one of the main reasons why the goaltending has been good… few second chances… but when they get out muscled, they are DOOMED. They often spend 30-45 seconds in their own zone… with no clue how to get the puck out, which leads to icing and with teh new rules (my favorite new rule) they can’t change.
Also, he has everybody playing that system against every line. It just doesn’t work that well agains the top defensive pairings on other teams, and once it’s broken it leads to mismatches in their own defensive zones… or spent forwards who have to cover 180 feet of ice every shift.
Look what boston did tonight. they ran the isles ragged and then went to a 2 man forecheck (the big miracle of the scott gordon system) in the third and the isles (just like every night…. even when they win) threw up all over themselves.
Personnel is a problem, but it has been a problem every year. Take the system and his lack of testicles and I really don’t have a whole lot of confidence in scott gordon.
I hope he turns it around… but I just don’t see it.
…and after watching hte feed from boston, and the Scott gordon shuffle… we’re doomed.
I hope CB can post a copy of it so we can pre-empt the nightly display of it at MSG…
This one is gonna have Islander fans hanging their head in SHAME. If “GO GO” knew what boston was doing on TV he would have personally sent Fritz up to the booth to tear the tape out of the machine.

]]> By: JPinVA http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2008/11/thompson-off-ir-fritz-to-bridgeportnyi-at-boston-1200-pm-talk-about-the-game-here/#comment-9067 JPinVA Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:23:39 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=3648#comment-9067 thanks Kevin... Boston feed neither showed the origin of the fight, nor talked about it. It's funny how a fight can start between a guy like Lucic and Witt (Witt has never been considered a heavyweight) and nobody is screaming "instigator". But Gordon watches Nielsen get decked with no justice and keeps the dog in the yard. There is a big sign on the Islander's back... and it says, "KICK ME"... hmmm... I was gonna get POTVIN put on mine... but KICK ME is so much more appropriate for this version of the team... has been for years. I admit, I wasn't a big fan of bringing Fritz up to replace Okposo. Still not. But if the support guys on this team are gonna cower, then please bring him up and play him 12 mins a game. Or guys like Bailey and Park are gonna get run all day long. Did anybody catch the SLAM Chara put on Bailey... I think he left an imprint on the glass. There just isn't enough talent on the team or in Bridgeport to justify not having a guy like Fritz on the ice... NOT THE BENCH... ON THE ICE. After the Lucic hit on Jackman you gotta tell each left wing, "when he hits the ice, you hit the bench.." and you send a guided instigating missle out there to pummel him. this team KNOWS their coach does not have their back. The GM has assured a soft lineup, and the coach is too much of a wimp to use his gun. and we all know that you never take a gun out unless you are prepared to use it. ...and on a positive note :-) Bergy ROCKS. Give me 9 Bergenhiems and even I could coach a playoff team. I'd like to have Nokie too... but this organization has a nose for talent like Helen Keller had an ear for music. thanks Kevin… Boston feed neither showed the origin of the fight, nor talked about it.
It’s funny how a fight can start between a guy like Lucic and Witt (Witt has never been considered a heavyweight) and nobody is screaming “instigator”. But Gordon watches Nielsen get decked with no justice and keeps the dog in the yard.
There is a big sign on the Islander’s back… and it says, “KICK ME”… hmmm… I was gonna get POTVIN put on mine… but KICK ME is so much more appropriate for this version of the team… has been for years.
I admit, I wasn’t a big fan of bringing Fritz up to replace Okposo. Still not. But if the support guys on this team are gonna cower, then please bring him up and play him 12 mins a game. Or guys like Bailey and Park are gonna get run all day long. Did anybody catch the SLAM Chara put on Bailey… I think he left an imprint on the glass.
There just isn’t enough talent on the team or in Bridgeport to justify not having a guy like Fritz on the ice… NOT THE BENCH… ON THE ICE.
After the Lucic hit on Jackman you gotta tell each left wing, “when he hits the ice, you hit the bench..” and you send a guided instigating missle out there to pummel him.
this team KNOWS their coach does not have their back. The GM has assured a soft lineup, and the coach is too much of a wimp to use his gun. and we all know that you never take a gun out unless you are prepared to use it.

…and on a positive note :-) Bergy ROCKS. Give me 9 Bergenhiems and even I could coach a playoff team. I’d like to have Nokie too… but this organization has a nose for talent like Helen Keller had an ear for music.

]]> By: Willis http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2008/11/thompson-off-ir-fritz-to-bridgeportnyi-at-boston-1200-pm-talk-about-the-game-here/#comment-9062 Willis Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:06:02 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=3648#comment-9062 I know you're venting Strummer but is it really that bad? We can shoulda coulda woulda all we want but did we really think the Isles would win??? It was the Bruins, and they are GOOD!!! It's not that the D is that bad if you ask me. Its just when the team "stops playing their game" everything seems to fall apart. Then they become a bundle of nerves and start to react, which more often than not means give the puck up, don't clear, get caught, you know the drill. It becomes a comedy of errors. It's been pretty consistently that way when things start to go wrong and yet they do okay (and sometimes well!) when they are playing the way they should. Gordon doesn't have all of the players he needs yet. So this year we are basically just watching some guys develop, some lines become scoring threats (ok wishful thinking mostly), some guys stay invisible or just not fit the style of play. If they could've played their game today I think they don't lose by much. Better luck next game. I think Okposo's back. I know you’re venting Strummer but is it really that bad? We can shoulda coulda woulda all we want but did we really think the Isles would win??? It was the Bruins, and they are GOOD!!!
It’s not that the D is that bad if you ask me. Its just when the team “stops playing their game” everything seems to fall apart. Then they become a bundle of nerves and start to react, which more often than not means give the puck up, don’t clear, get caught, you know the drill. It becomes a comedy of errors. It’s been pretty consistently that way when things start to go wrong and yet they do okay (and sometimes well!) when they are playing the way they should.

Gordon doesn’t have all of the players he needs yet. So this year we are basically just watching some guys develop, some lines become scoring threats (ok wishful thinking mostly), some guys stay invisible or just not fit the style of play.
If they could’ve played their game today I think they don’t lose by much. Better luck next game. I think Okposo’s back.

]]> By: kevin http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2008/11/thompson-off-ir-fritz-to-bridgeportnyi-at-boston-1200-pm-talk-about-the-game-here/#comment-9061 kevin Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:04:07 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=3648#comment-9061 JPinVA, the fight started because lucic did not like getting manhandled in front of the net. JPinVA, the fight started because lucic did not like getting manhandled in front of the net.

]]> By: Strummer's Army http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2008/11/thompson-off-ir-fritz-to-bridgeportnyi-at-boston-1200-pm-talk-about-the-game-here/#comment-9054 Strummer's Army Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:27:19 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=3648#comment-9054 Anyone on here still wanna say the Isles top 5 defense is as good as any in the NHL? The defense is horrible! It has been for years. I think the last good defense this team had was the year before they traded Chara. Since then it has been soft, overrated guys, until the past two years where it has been small, soft, guys who mostly are 6th d-men or AHL players. Garth Snow "We'll call up toughness when we need it". Really? HHHMM you haven't seem to work it out to well. You just sent Fritz down the day before your team played one with 4 guys who can really fight. I have been stating on this blog for over a week that MacDonald is tired and needed a night off. Gordon being a former goalie should have recognized this and not let Dannis get cold or play Mannino sooner. This team is too small, not tough enough, not talented enough and doesn't fit the system. Jon Sim is the worst! Did it do anyone good to see Lucic beating up the assistant captain Witt? Witt isn't a good fighter. He can beat up guys like Malone or Komisarik(who is a great hitter but no fighter) but he shouldn't be exposed to a guy like Lucic who can really throw. We should all file a class action law suit vs. the Islanders because the commerical they have this season with the huge hits and them dominating fights is just a lie. One guy on this team is throwing hits and his name is Sean Bergenheim. Hunter hasn't thrown his body around anywhere near his level of the last few seasons. I want the top pick but want the team to be competitive, today was just pathetic, it was like an NHL team scrimmaging a old-timers team. Anyone on here still wanna say the Isles top 5 defense is as good as any in the NHL?

The defense is horrible! It has been for years. I think the last good defense this team had was the year before they traded Chara. Since then it has been soft, overrated guys, until the past two years where it has been small, soft, guys who mostly are 6th d-men or AHL players.

Garth Snow “We’ll call up toughness when we need it”. Really? HHHMM you haven’t seem to work it out to well. You just sent Fritz down the day before your team played one with 4 guys who can really fight.

I have been stating on this blog for over a week that MacDonald is tired and needed a night off. Gordon being a former goalie should have recognized this and not let Dannis get cold or play Mannino sooner.

This team is too small, not tough enough, not talented enough and doesn’t fit the system.

Jon Sim is the worst!

Did it do anyone good to see Lucic beating up the assistant captain Witt? Witt isn’t a good fighter. He can beat up guys like Malone or Komisarik(who is a great hitter but no fighter) but he shouldn’t be exposed to a guy like Lucic who can really throw.

We should all file a class action law suit vs. the Islanders because the commerical they have this season with the huge hits and them dominating fights is just a lie. One guy on this team is throwing hits and his name is Sean Bergenheim. Hunter hasn’t thrown his body around anywhere near his level of the last few seasons.

I want the top pick but want the team to be competitive, today was just pathetic, it was like an NHL team scrimmaging a old-timers team.

]]> By: Madchef http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2008/11/thompson-off-ir-fritz-to-bridgeportnyi-at-boston-1200-pm-talk-about-the-game-here/#comment-9053 Madchef Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:14:35 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=3648#comment-9053 isles still had turkey belly from last night.Bruins looked good. Team isn't soft but not nearly as talented as other teams and small. Fritz is great for keeping other teams in line but his ability to do anything else but tire our team out is non existent Tambellini is a wimp who gets sand kicked in his face at the beach.(nobody will take him) 3-o against the Senators tommorow? Agree Maninno needs a start tomorrow. Jmac needs a day off. Win tomorrow and move on from there isles still had turkey belly from last night.Bruins looked good. Team isn’t soft but not nearly as talented as other teams and small. Fritz is great for keeping other teams in line but his ability to do anything else but tire our team out is non existent Tambellini is a wimp who gets sand kicked in his face at the beach.(nobody will take him) 3-o against the Senators tommorow? Agree Maninno needs a start tomorrow. Jmac needs a day off. Win tomorrow and move on from there

]]> By: Matt http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2008/11/thompson-off-ir-fritz-to-bridgeportnyi-at-boston-1200-pm-talk-about-the-game-here/#comment-9052 Matt Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:13:01 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=3648#comment-9052 I guess this is how a team plays thats going to get the #1 or #2 pick. Somebody wake me back up in June! I guess this is how a team plays thats going to get the #1 or #2 pick. Somebody wake me back up in June!

]]> By: ISLESFAN999 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2008/11/thompson-off-ir-fritz-to-bridgeportnyi-at-boston-1200-pm-talk-about-the-game-here/#comment-9051 ISLESFAN999 Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:01:05 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=3648#comment-9051 We will have growing pains we have little talent. We need a top 5 pick to become a good team in a few years. I don't mind losing this year. I just wish we were a little tougher. We lose every single fight except for Fritz and now he is sent down. This team really sucks. We lose Nielsen and he was really good. We will have growing pains we have little talent. We need a top 5 pick to become a good team in a few years. I don’t mind losing this year. I just wish we were a little tougher. We lose every single fight except for Fritz and now he is sent down. This team really sucks. We lose Nielsen and he was really good.

]]> By: JPinVA http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2008/11/thompson-off-ir-fritz-to-bridgeportnyi-at-boston-1200-pm-talk-about-the-game-here/#comment-9050 JPinVA Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:46:50 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=3648#comment-9050 Does Thumbellini have any sisters. Nobody will give us a real hockey player, or the chance to draft one for this guy. But maybe his father will give us a sibling with Ice Girl potential. Or... you know what... let's see what HE looks like in the costume. Does Thumbellini have any sisters. Nobody will give us a real hockey player, or the chance to draft one for this guy. But maybe his father will give us a sibling with Ice Girl potential. Or… you know what… let’s see what HE looks like in the costume.

]]> By: minorleaguer http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2008/11/thompson-off-ir-fritz-to-bridgeportnyi-at-boston-1200-pm-talk-about-the-game-here/#comment-9049 minorleaguer Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:45:44 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=3648#comment-9049 Notice that only 2 players were +'s today? Colliton & Thompson. Notice that only 2 players were +’s today? Colliton & Thompson.

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