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	<title>Comments on: WHERE HAVE YOU GONE, KATE MURRAY?Time for Hempstead Town Supervisor to take a stand</title>
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		<title>By: Mattie Breen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattie Breen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate Murray is committing career suicide.  She can't realistically think she's going to get re-elected if she causes the Islanders to leave.  I for one will do everything I can to raise money for whomever decides to run against her in the next election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate Murray is committing career suicide.  She can&#8217;t realistically think she&#8217;s going to get re-elected if she causes the Islanders to leave.  I for one will do everything I can to raise money for whomever decides to run against her in the next election.</p>
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		<title>By: DP's Hip</title>
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		<dc:creator>DP's Hip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc.....just read your post now.

Why wasn't Wang brought up on charges? Ya got me. Maybe, just maybe, our justice system is kind to some billionaires? His political buddies helped? He WAS CEO and is totally hands on in every aspect of his business, so did he just not know for years his company misstated earnings and used an illegal means to reporting revenues?

Well, he's our owner so I guess you'll spare him any wrongdoing for a new arena. Must be me, not the reality because the reality is bad.

And now you bash Trump and foreign investors who PAID LEGALLY but want to laud Wang for wanting the NVMC parcel deeded to him because he'll pay for an arena makeover so he can build condos and mallspace?

Please.....Just say nothing on earth will make you question anything Islander. Wang is a crook. Do your research and ask questions. Ask Oyster Bay residents. Ask Computer Associates shareholders whose retirement plans went in the toilet. Ask Al D'Amato why SMG hasn't been bought out yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc&#8230;..just read your post now.</p>
<p>Why wasn&#8217;t Wang brought up on charges? Ya got me. Maybe, just maybe, our justice system is kind to some billionaires? His political buddies helped? He WAS CEO and is totally hands on in every aspect of his business, so did he just not know for years his company misstated earnings and used an illegal means to reporting revenues?</p>
<p>Well, he&#8217;s our owner so I guess you&#8217;ll spare him any wrongdoing for a new arena. Must be me, not the reality because the reality is bad.</p>
<p>And now you bash Trump and foreign investors who PAID LEGALLY but want to laud Wang for wanting the NVMC parcel deeded to him because he&#8217;ll pay for an arena makeover so he can build condos and mallspace?</p>
<p>Please&#8230;..Just say nothing on earth will make you question anything Islander. Wang is a crook. Do your research and ask questions. Ask Oyster Bay residents. Ask Computer Associates shareholders whose retirement plans went in the toilet. Ask Al D&#8217;Amato why SMG hasn&#8217;t been bought out yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Willis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Nick, I was just wondering if the study would be complete in time for the public comments. Basically if there is a set date the study findings HAVE to be in by. Wouldn't make a lot of sense to have the public comments when the study is still going on because there would be no answers to many of the questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Nick, I was just wondering if the study would be complete in time for the public comments. Basically if there is a set date the study findings HAVE to be in by. Wouldn&#8217;t make a lot of sense to have the public comments when the study is still going on because there would be no answers to many of the questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Willis - the comments will occur sometime in the next 2-4 months, and the environmental review is ongoing since June.  Hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Willis - the comments will occur sometime in the next 2-4 months, and the environmental review is ongoing since June.  Hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way my fellow Isles fans. That Courtesy Hotel deal got the ok in a matter of months not YEARS! 
The racketeering that goes on in Long Island just has to stop. Enough with all the payoffs already!!
You have 2 LI based companies that want to reinvested in LI and the TOH is pushing them away. Companies are leaving in droves because of all the "payoffs".
When do these so called officials open their eyes and realize that LI NEEDS this?
Their worried about traffic...Please!
News Flash... traffic is everywhere on this Island. We really can't avoid it these days. 
This has to get done just for economic reasons. You would think these "officials" would see this? Kate Murry is a joke, Suozzi is a even bigger joke and the TOH is absolutely pathetic!

Just remember this people when they run for re-election.
Jezzz, I really hate these people!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way my fellow Isles fans. That Courtesy Hotel deal got the ok in a matter of months not YEARS!<br />
The racketeering that goes on in Long Island just has to stop. Enough with all the payoffs already!!<br />
You have 2 LI based companies that want to reinvested in LI and the TOH is pushing them away. Companies are leaving in droves because of all the &#8220;payoffs&#8221;.<br />
When do these so called officials open their eyes and realize that LI NEEDS this?<br />
Their worried about traffic&#8230;Please!<br />
News Flash&#8230; traffic is everywhere on this Island. We really can&#8217;t avoid it these days.<br />
This has to get done just for economic reasons. You would think these &#8220;officials&#8221; would see this? Kate Murry is a joke, Suozzi is a even bigger joke and the TOH is absolutely pathetic!</p>
<p>Just remember this people when they run for re-election.<br />
Jezzz, I really hate these people!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Willis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, what is the timeline for when the environmental/traffic studies are completed? How does that fit in with the public comments time frame?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, what is the timeline for when the environmental/traffic studies are completed? How does that fit in with the public comments time frame?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the public comments start, then we can show our numbers loudly and publicly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the public comments start, then we can show our numbers loudly and publicly.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jethro, that's why we need to stay on them.  The best thing to do right now (and I have this right from the horse's mouth, so this is not just my recommendation) is to write Kate Murray (you can click the link on my name for her address), sign my online petition, and write your local Nassau legislator.

I'm so involved in this because, as I may have said before, I love this team and don't want to see it go anywhere but right where it belongs.  In addition, I live a well-hit baseball away from the Bellmore Army Base.  It's been closed for 18 years, and 12 years ago we reached an agreement (with heavy local support) to re-develop it.  Right now, I get to look at a vacant 17 acre lot every day.  I know what the Town of Hempstead will do if you don't haunt them, namely, nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jethro, that&#8217;s why we need to stay on them.  The best thing to do right now (and I have this right from the horse&#8217;s mouth, so this is not just my recommendation) is to write Kate Murray (you can click the link on my name for her address), sign my online petition, and write your local Nassau legislator.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so involved in this because, as I may have said before, I love this team and don&#8217;t want to see it go anywhere but right where it belongs.  In addition, I live a well-hit baseball away from the Bellmore Army Base.  It&#8217;s been closed for 18 years, and 12 years ago we reached an agreement (with heavy local support) to re-develop it.  Right now, I get to look at a vacant 17 acre lot every day.  I know what the Town of Hempstead will do if you don&#8217;t haunt them, namely, nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jethro09</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jethro09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Nick:
I hope you're right about the extent of support for this project.  I think the project as a whole would be good for Long Island.  Its great that lots of people support it, but if the politicans stand in the way, then the project is dead.  

The only alternative Nassau, and in particular Hempstead, residents have if they do support the project is to exercise their opinions by voting Kate Murray out of office, along with all the other silent politicans that have thrown nothing but road blocks in this project's way since it was first pitched.  If these dead beats are going to sit on their hands and, from what you're telling me, not carry out the desires of their constituents, then they need to be removed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Nick:<br />
I hope you&#8217;re right about the extent of support for this project.  I think the project as a whole would be good for Long Island.  Its great that lots of people support it, but if the politicans stand in the way, then the project is dead.  </p>
<p>The only alternative Nassau, and in particular Hempstead, residents have if they do support the project is to exercise their opinions by voting Kate Murray out of office, along with all the other silent politicans that have thrown nothing but road blocks in this project&#8217;s way since it was first pitched.  If these dead beats are going to sit on their hands and, from what you&#8217;re telling me, not carry out the desires of their constituents, then they need to be removed.</p>
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		<title>By: McLovin21</title>
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		<dc:creator>McLovin21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Jethro. I would hope that Suffolk would step up to the plate and give Wang some land that he could develop in the event that this project fails. If not, I'm still hoping that Ratner's Brooklyn project gets built. While it wouldnt be a great alternative, I think it would be their most likely destination considering the cable deal that they have</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Jethro. I would hope that Suffolk would step up to the plate and give Wang some land that he could develop in the event that this project fails. If not, I&#8217;m still hoping that Ratner&#8217;s Brooklyn project gets built. While it wouldnt be a great alternative, I think it would be their most likely destination considering the cable deal that they have</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, quick edit to my typo - I can't imagine other sites have NOT been considered.  Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, quick edit to my typo - I can&#8217;t imagine other sites have NOT been considered.  Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't imagine other sites have been considered.  We all remember Wang very publicly looking at a different site in Suffolk to get the County to move on the project a few years ago.  There are a few issues with exploring a different site as of this point, in all seriousness:

- The enforceable lease at the Coliseum
- The requirement (from the County, owners of the land) that any re-development of the site had to include a larger destination point.  This would be complex regardless of who won the eventual bid, Nassau chose to go big
- The environmental review that's going on is mandated by state law.  Going to a different site pushes the time horizon back at least another 5 years in order to get things together.  With Bettman already making noise about the current project, abandoning it could be a death blow for the team

Jethro, the one thing I would dispute in your very reasoned analysis is that this is just an Islanders issue.  About 3/4 of the comments in public were positive, and most of those people couldn't pick Mike Bossy out of a lineup.  As a matter of fact, Bossy gave a speech at one of the hearings and half the room couldn't figure out why the other half was so excited.

The most positive thing is that there is no organized opposition, and there is a lot of organized support.  For example, a group called the Long Island Progressive Coalition was there passing out "YIMBY" stickers for people to wear, and I saw quite a few of them.  That is the sort of thing that will get the project passed, the people who support it for the destination, smart growth, and affordable housing components.  I see no reason not to continue my optimism, and everything I've seen tells me that people are silent because the environmental review has to continue and nothing anybody says will expedite that process.  We can work on changing the state law some other time.

I definitely think the project should have been debated and reviewed sooner, but we have a lot of momentum right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t imagine other sites have been considered.  We all remember Wang very publicly looking at a different site in Suffolk to get the County to move on the project a few years ago.  There are a few issues with exploring a different site as of this point, in all seriousness:</p>
<p>- The enforceable lease at the Coliseum<br />
- The requirement (from the County, owners of the land) that any re-development of the site had to include a larger destination point.  This would be complex regardless of who won the eventual bid, Nassau chose to go big<br />
- The environmental review that&#8217;s going on is mandated by state law.  Going to a different site pushes the time horizon back at least another 5 years in order to get things together.  With Bettman already making noise about the current project, abandoning it could be a death blow for the team</p>
<p>Jethro, the one thing I would dispute in your very reasoned analysis is that this is just an Islanders issue.  About 3/4 of the comments in public were positive, and most of those people couldn&#8217;t pick Mike Bossy out of a lineup.  As a matter of fact, Bossy gave a speech at one of the hearings and half the room couldn&#8217;t figure out why the other half was so excited.</p>
<p>The most positive thing is that there is no organized opposition, and there is a lot of organized support.  For example, a group called the Long Island Progressive Coalition was there passing out &#8220;YIMBY&#8221; stickers for people to wear, and I saw quite a few of them.  That is the sort of thing that will get the project passed, the people who support it for the destination, smart growth, and affordable housing components.  I see no reason not to continue my optimism, and everything I&#8217;ve seen tells me that people are silent because the environmental review has to continue and nothing anybody says will expedite that process.  We can work on changing the state law some other time.</p>
<p>I definitely think the project should have been debated and reviewed sooner, but we have a lot of momentum right now.</p>
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