Comments on: MINNESOTA 4, ISLANDERS 1Sutton injured…Comeau curiosity continues

By: doc

doc — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:27:18 +0000

Matt:

I will give you a thought out answer on a new thread regarding Gordon.

I see where you are coming from though… but I will take the other side of the equaition later tonight. Look for it after the game.

DOC

By: Matt

Matt — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:35:48 +0000

Yeah I agree. Guess the best thing to do is ride it out which I think we will wind up doing. Just wonder when the team will play for Gordon because it seems they are fighting him every stretch of the way. Beginning to wonder now if Gordon was the right choice? A lot of incositencies so far which doesn’t further stability which this team so desperately needs.

By: Tom

Tom — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:37:53 +0000

Flash is 35 games in he needs time…OK. BUT let’s look at the facts so far. Can’t develop Tambellini. Has alienated Comeau. Okposo was underachieving prior to injury, Bailey is flat lining. That’s his effect on youth…let’s look at the vets…Guerin is rumored not to like him much, Witt’s not a big fan of play D for the man. This is just what I know. What don’t I know? Don’t tell me, it’s too scary!

By: AngryPete

AngryPete — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:25:40 +0000

Personally, I don’t wanna see anyone fired. We can’t complain about there being no consistency or normalcy here if the organization is constantly in flux. It’s tumultous and doesn’t provide for a healthy atmosphere going forward.

The best thing they can do at this point is grow together and learn together. It’s obvious Gordon is still in ‘NHL Coaching 101′ and will be for the rest of the year.

By: Matt

Matt — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:52:29 +0000

For curiosities sake DOC what is your impression of Gordon at this point? You seem to be more even tempered than myself and certainly more patient. He started losing me when Nielson got clobbered by Mottau. I haven’t given up hope yet but I’m getting there. I’m not saying I hope we fire the guy because like I said earlier that wouldn’t be the smartest thing to do right now.

By: The PolishPrince

The PolishPrince — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:51:43 +0000

Let me say, I’ve never played organized hockey so I don’t pretend to know that I fully understand the “system” Gordo is using. Nor can I state with any authority that an NHL team can or can’t play it constantly for 60 minutes at a time. I will however say that I am totally stumped as to why Sim played yesterday and Comeau sat. Blake has looked solid in his time with the big club. Sim, meh, not so much…I even get dressing Fritz on the odd chance Boog started running people. But Jon Sim, really?

By: doc

doc — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:44:07 +0000

LOL… we’re cool.

DOC

By: Matt

Matt — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:37:15 +0000

Didn’t finish reading your post, skimmed through it. I stand corrected.

By: DP's Hip

DP's Hip — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:37:09 +0000

Perhaps it’s good coaching vs. bad coaching. Some players didn’t like Nolan? Fine. Nolan led them and got them to overachieve. Gorton has a few players doing their job but those guys always work…..they’re achieving due to less defensive responsibility and more demand for offense.

And Nolan not buying into Snow’s rebuild…..remind me, but didn’t Snow himself at the trade deadline state that he believed we were in contention for the playoffs? NOT said if we were rebuilding, so Nolan was on the same page (trying to tin) but for one Jeff Tambellini. Nolan played the rookies who worked hard and got results on ice and sat the Tambellini Project and I believe THAT is the basis for the myth of Nolan not playing kids.

And Pete hits it dead on…..you npay to watch failure, why should they change anything? We paid to watch Milbury’s teams and he stayed forever….now we pay to watch the second Jack Adams nominee get replaced by AHL fodder. We pay to see Snow collect players from the Goodwill Store, we pay to see last place and trading down picks and bad trades and bad management and almost LAUD the idiocy.

You stop paying a bad restaurant money and they’ll make better food in no time or sell. Given that Bettman wants the Isles to stay on Long Island no matter what (legacy teams), stop paying Steinwanger money and maybe he’ll be forced to hire a GOOD GM and a GOOD coach and get GOOD players and thus make the Islanders a GOOD team. Stop paying for failure. Demand quality.

By: doc

doc — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:32:41 +0000

Matt:

Once again you proved that you cannot read… Sad.

I stated in my post… ” I am NOT comparing DiPietro to Jeter…” I was just using the examplo of how Jeter’s so called defensive weakness is completely unfounded… but has somehow become “fact” amongst his detractors… just like DiPietros so called “Primadonna” status has become a “fact” by his detractors repeatedly stating it.

I was only comparing the un-truths – NOT THE PLAYER.

Learn how to read my friend!

DOC

By: PreOriginal

PreOriginal — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:19:27 +0000

Under Nolan, the Islanders were scrapy and often overachieved. Under Gordon, I see minimal effort and a lot of bad injury karma. New system. Old system. Something’s not right in that locker room. I know it’s a different era, but can’t this bloody and bloodied team study the Islanders’ building system from 1972–1975? I’m sure there’s a few old papers in the basement to get us out of the basement…eventually. (PS: I am pro-rebuilding over a two-year period; being a non-entious 16th playoff team just turns me off…)

By: Matt

Matt — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:01:08 +0000

Well angry pete the positives would be;
Lower alcohol intake for you
Wont have to buy a remote every week from throwing it into wall and shattering it
wont have to watch Scott Gordons post game interview
the Islanders(or whoever they are) will instantly become the darlings of the canadian press for once
wont have to wait at the light on hempstead turnpike at NVMC
Doesn’t sound bad but be careful what you wish for…