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	<title>Comments on: SAD TIMES AT NEWSDAY; And why it&#8217;s time for all NHL teams to host media on the road</title>
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		<title>By: Jason W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not if Logan's writing would get compromised, its the perception that it would.  And that is what matters.

Just like a blog about the Islanders sponsored by the Islanders.  Yes you are independent and have proven it, but how many doubted it in the beginning and how many still believe this..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not if Logan&#8217;s writing would get compromised, its the perception that it would.  And that is what matters.</p>
<p>Just like a blog about the Islanders sponsored by the Islanders.  Yes you are independent and have proven it, but how many doubted it in the beginning and how many still believe this..</p>
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		<title>By: 19 Isle in NJ 22</title>
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		<dc:creator>19 Isle in NJ 22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late Entry Here: sorry for the long post .. but I wanted to make a strong point here.

I have to strongly lean towards agreeing with CB here. Chris knows exactly what he's talking about. I work in the electronic media and let me tell you this. A lot of accommodations are made to both the electronic and print media by teams / leagues. So what is the difference if they extend that to charter flights? 

When I used to work for Fox Sports covering NHL, MLB &#38; NFL the teams had a "Press" dining section and fed us. Some teams even set up rooms in the guts of the stadium / arena for extra seating and had buffet service for larger events to handle the excess media. I see no problem with journalistic integrity if this is done league wide .. and I think Logan already brings his own brand of good integrity. Others have already mentioned Howie and Billy's status as Cablevision employees, so what is the difference? If there is any question, perhaps the Isles could charge Newsday a nominal fuel surcharge. After all ... even Airforce One carries a press corp ... and the press makes a living ripping the POTUS .. no matter what administration.

Regarding print media in general. I was once told by a veteran print sports writer (former Isles beat writer) about 10 years ago that newspapers will be obsolete in about 10 years. He said, it isn't that news is obsolete, it's the paper part that is.

Newsday being run by an electronic media empire is a huge mistake. The Dolan's know nothing about how to fix the print media. Charging more for the paper doesn't increase readership. It diminishes it.. thus the ad revenue with it. Maybe they are trying to kill the paper altogether?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late Entry Here: sorry for the long post .. but I wanted to make a strong point here.</p>
<p>I have to strongly lean towards agreeing with CB here. Chris knows exactly what he&#8217;s talking about. I work in the electronic media and let me tell you this. A lot of accommodations are made to both the electronic and print media by teams / leagues. So what is the difference if they extend that to charter flights? </p>
<p>When I used to work for Fox Sports covering NHL, MLB &amp; NFL the teams had a &#8220;Press&#8221; dining section and fed us. Some teams even set up rooms in the guts of the stadium / arena for extra seating and had buffet service for larger events to handle the excess media. I see no problem with journalistic integrity if this is done league wide .. and I think Logan already brings his own brand of good integrity. Others have already mentioned Howie and Billy&#8217;s status as Cablevision employees, so what is the difference? If there is any question, perhaps the Isles could charge Newsday a nominal fuel surcharge. After all &#8230; even Airforce One carries a press corp &#8230; and the press makes a living ripping the POTUS .. no matter what administration.</p>
<p>Regarding print media in general. I was once told by a veteran print sports writer (former Isles beat writer) about 10 years ago that newspapers will be obsolete in about 10 years. He said, it isn&#8217;t that news is obsolete, it&#8217;s the paper part that is.</p>
<p>Newsday being run by an electronic media empire is a huge mistake. The Dolan&#8217;s know nothing about how to fix the print media. Charging more for the paper doesn&#8217;t increase readership. It diminishes it.. thus the ad revenue with it. Maybe they are trying to kill the paper altogether?</p>
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		<title>By: BringBackNyles</title>
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		<dc:creator>BringBackNyles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 04:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CB I have to disagree. You cannot have a writer on a team charter and not have issues.  let's say they extend him a courtesy, then mid air on the way to vancouver he sees DiPietro go at it with the head coach and a punch is thrown? Does he report it, or does he bury it because someone tells him.."If you want a flight home, you didn't see that?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CB I have to disagree. You cannot have a writer on a team charter and not have issues.  let&#8217;s say they extend him a courtesy, then mid air on the way to vancouver he sees DiPietro go at it with the head coach and a punch is thrown? Does he report it, or does he bury it because someone tells him..&#8221;If you want a flight home, you didn&#8217;t see that?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pritchett54</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pritchett54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 01:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree about Howard. She wrote a column on the eve of the season about how bad the isles are and how they are rebuilding again. Just a pointless repetetive article. She also made comments twice about how the islanders havent "sniffed" the playoffs in years. Even though they have made it 3 of the last 5 seasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about Howard. She wrote a column on the eve of the season about how bad the isles are and how they are rebuilding again. Just a pointless repetetive article. She also made comments twice about how the islanders havent &#8220;sniffed&#8221; the playoffs in years. Even though they have made it 3 of the last 5 seasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely agree with you on Shaun Powell.  This would be a huge loss to Long Island sports readers if he goes.  The guy is top-notch and I would hope he has no trouble finding work elsewhere. But Johnette Howard????  Are you kidding me?  How many columns has she written where you scratch your head after the first paragraph thinking you are reading the onion or some other farsical paper.  It is a disgrace to the Islanders that they even let her write about hockey.  Please do not take this post as a violation, because she is a public figure, and she should never be forgiven for that insult of Islanders fans she penned at the beginning of this season.  She attacked first, in public.  I fully support dropping her, even if the paper were making a fortune.  Hopefully she uses the time to beef up her research skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely agree with you on Shaun Powell.  This would be a huge loss to Long Island sports readers if he goes.  The guy is top-notch and I would hope he has no trouble finding work elsewhere. But Johnette Howard????  Are you kidding me?  How many columns has she written where you scratch your head after the first paragraph thinking you are reading the onion or some other farsical paper.  It is a disgrace to the Islanders that they even let her write about hockey.  Please do not take this post as a violation, because she is a public figure, and she should never be forgiven for that insult of Islanders fans she penned at the beginning of this season.  She attacked first, in public.  I fully support dropping her, even if the paper were making a fortune.  Hopefully she uses the time to beef up her research skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike from Queens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike from Queens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, if Newsday is going to stop covering the Islanders road games because of budget costs/cuts, then what is better:

No coverage at all, or coverage from a guy who *may* have a conflict of interest?

I think we all realize the ethical issues here, but as an Islanders fan, I'd rather read articles in the newspaper which may be tinged with bias (which I don't foresee happening, anyway) than see my team relegated to a 200 word AP story one page before the high school sports section. 

I don't want to have to choose between the two; I would like to see Newsday be committed to the Isles. However, if I have to choose between those two scenarios, I'm taking the local coverage every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, if Newsday is going to stop covering the Islanders road games because of budget costs/cuts, then what is better:</p>
<p>No coverage at all, or coverage from a guy who *may* have a conflict of interest?</p>
<p>I think we all realize the ethical issues here, but as an Islanders fan, I&#8217;d rather read articles in the newspaper which may be tinged with bias (which I don&#8217;t foresee happening, anyway) than see my team relegated to a 200 word AP story one page before the high school sports section. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to have to choose between the two; I would like to see Newsday be committed to the Isles. However, if I have to choose between those two scenarios, I&#8217;m taking the local coverage every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Baumbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Baumbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, Howie and Billy are MSG employees, but that means nothing - almost always the team has a clause in its right contract that gives the team the right to choose the announcers. 

I don't know if that is true specifically in this case, but I've never heard of a scenario where it is not true.

So while Billy and Howie are paid by the Dolans, it's the Islanders who hire - and fire - them.

FYI: I wrote a post about Botta's idea here: http://blogs.trb.com/sports/columnists/jimbaumbach/blog/2008/12/why_newsday_wont_ever_save_by.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, Howie and Billy are MSG employees, but that means nothing - almost always the team has a clause in its right contract that gives the team the right to choose the announcers. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if that is true specifically in this case, but I&#8217;ve never heard of a scenario where it is not true.</p>
<p>So while Billy and Howie are paid by the Dolans, it&#8217;s the Islanders who hire - and fire - them.</p>
<p>FYI: I wrote a post about Botta&#8217;s idea here: <a href="http://blogs.trb.com/sports/columnists/jimbaumbach/blog/2008/12/why_newsday_wont_ever_save_by.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.trb.com/sports/columnists/jimbaumbach/blog/2008/12/why_newsday_wont_ever_save_by.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Justin Izzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Izzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, you're absolutely right. The news about Newsday does not surprise this journalism major, as all we hear about in school is how the newspaper is a dying breed thanks to the internet. If the NHL wants its product covered, they need to step up and do this. The only thing that would worry me is that the columnists might be pressured to shy away from dishing out negative press if their travel expenses are covered by the franchise (when it's deserved, obviously). But either that's the future or the future involves no live coverage of hockey games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, you&#8217;re absolutely right. The news about Newsday does not surprise this journalism major, as all we hear about in school is how the newspaper is a dying breed thanks to the internet. If the NHL wants its product covered, they need to step up and do this. The only thing that would worry me is that the columnists might be pressured to shy away from dishing out negative press if their travel expenses are covered by the franchise (when it&#8217;s deserved, obviously). But either that&#8217;s the future or the future involves no live coverage of hockey games.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The inly person who has a problem with Greg Logan's work is the guy Bill from New York Islander Fan Central. The problem with Bill is that he is Ranger Paranoid and everyone that has anything remotely negative to say about the Isles is a "Ranger fan". Chris, do you know the guy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The inly person who has a problem with Greg Logan&#8217;s work is the guy Bill from New York Islander Fan Central. The problem with Bill is that he is Ranger Paranoid and everyone that has anything remotely negative to say about the Isles is a &#8220;Ranger fan&#8221;. Chris, do you know the guy?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Berner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Berner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also have problems with Dolan - Cablevision - MSG - Newsday, as well as Murdock - Fox - NY Post. Though we live in a world of conflicts and compromises, we shouldn't confuse common usage for correctness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have problems with Dolan - Cablevision - MSG - Newsday, as well as Murdock - Fox - NY Post. Though we live in a world of conflicts and compromises, we shouldn&#8217;t confuse common usage for correctness.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is the whole point that Dee brings up - Greg Logan's credibility.  

Its really up to Greg to maintain that.  His track record of work supports both his credibility and integrity to date.

The "change of control" issue at Newsday - and the subsequent cost cutting issues are not issues that Mr.Logan initiated nor has any control over.  

He will be judged by the quality of his work - and I think its perfectly fine to use the team charter as a means of transprot.  

Perhaps he can take a position of sitting away from the players and management (depending on how big the plane is - etc) and he can either choose to take advantage of the additional time together to write more about the team.  

I mean if the Isles support a blog box and invite people to write what they feel, they neither have the desire - nor the clout - to influence the coverage that Mr. Logan or Newsday can and should provide.  

Only the Islanders or Cablevision can screw this up.   The Islanders by either limiting Greg access to the team or kicking him off the plane.  Cablevision is a collection (save for the announcers and workers on the telecasts - talking about the execs) of dummies and insensitive people.   See Dolan, James.

Pat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the whole point that Dee brings up - Greg Logan&#8217;s credibility.  </p>
<p>Its really up to Greg to maintain that.  His track record of work supports both his credibility and integrity to date.</p>
<p>The &#8220;change of control&#8221; issue at Newsday - and the subsequent cost cutting issues are not issues that Mr.Logan initiated nor has any control over.  </p>
<p>He will be judged by the quality of his work - and I think its perfectly fine to use the team charter as a means of transprot.  </p>
<p>Perhaps he can take a position of sitting away from the players and management (depending on how big the plane is - etc) and he can either choose to take advantage of the additional time together to write more about the team.  </p>
<p>I mean if the Isles support a blog box and invite people to write what they feel, they neither have the desire - nor the clout - to influence the coverage that Mr. Logan or Newsday can and should provide.  </p>
<p>Only the Islanders or Cablevision can screw this up.   The Islanders by either limiting Greg access to the team or kicking him off the plane.  Cablevision is a collection (save for the announcers and workers on the telecasts - talking about the execs) of dummies and insensitive people.   See Dolan, James.</p>
<p>Pat</p>
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		<title>By: 7th Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>7th Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg Logan would never lose his integrity no matter what logo was on his paycheck.  If Billy and Howie work for Dolan via MSG, and Greg works for Dolan via Newsday, then there should be no difference or conflict of interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg Logan would never lose his integrity no matter what logo was on his paycheck.  If Billy and Howie work for Dolan via MSG, and Greg works for Dolan via Newsday, then there should be no difference or conflict of interest.</p>
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