SUTTON OUT 6-8 WEEKS
Weight and Hunter day-to-day
1:30 pm, Iceworks - The Islanders have just announced the following injury updates:
Andy Sutton (broken foot), out 6-8 weeks.
Doug Weight (groin strain) did not practice, day-to-day.
Trent Hunter (groin strain) did not practice, day-to-day.
Jeff Tambellini has returned after his two-week stint in Bridgeport. Joe Callahan, Mitch Fritz and the rest of the crew from the road trip are all still with the team.
Gordon would not commit to Tambellini playing tomorrow when the Islanders host Atlanta. He made it clear twice that he had no timetable for Rick DiPietro’s return and that there’s still no talk of a Bridgeport conditioning stint for his No. 1 goaltender.
And that’s all we’ve got for now.
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Let’s pray this is the last “wake-up” call that Tambellini will need to get going and prove the critic’s wrong!
ITS BAD….BUT GOOD IN A WAY…ATLEAST THINGS ARE LOOKING VERY VERY GOOD AT US LANDING A TOP 2 PICK….AND ONCE RICK COMES BACK…THAT WILL CEMENT IT EVEN MORE
Let’s rush DP back again and send him home for the season.
ISNT IT CALLAHAN THATS UP AND NOT SKINNER?
Hoping Tambs can get things to click soon. Seems like a good kid and we need more scoring.
Lets hope its not one of those Okposo (day-to-day) scenarios
Can someone please explain to me what Mitch Fritz’s role is on this team?
Fritz is the tough enforcer who sits on the bench all game. He plays 2-3 minutes at most and most guys wont fight him.
FRITZ’s ice work provides comic relief and his infrequent brawls prove the isles are not soft.
I just read on another site (e1) from a Blue Jackets blogger about a possible Doug Weight trade with Columbus. He suggests Jonathan Sigalet and Maxim Mayorov + draft picks. Says its a steep price. Does anyone know anything about these guys? Young with upside according to the Blue Jackets website. If so, these are the types of trades I would like to see Garth make, not just for #2’s or 3’s, but actual young guys with upside. CB?
Joey - I’d take that with a whole shaker full of salt. Columbus is thin down the middle and Derek Brassard is out for the year: got his shoulder hurt in a fight - hence the rumor, but they probably don’t want to overpay for Doug Weight. In fact Columbus is a lot like the Isles right now, only a season further along: dumping two prospects and a pick for Doug Weight would set them back. They’re not close enough to a deep playoff run for that trade to make any sense. If Weight were on the Jackets, would the Isles send a couple of picks, Neilsen, and Hillen (for example) to pick him up?
Sigalet is older (22), a defenseman, and played for Scott Gordon in Providence, hence his inclusion in the rumor. I know next to squat about Mayorov. In any case, Columbus is unlikely to swing such a deal. If Snow could get that much for Weight, however, I think he’d have to really consider it.
Joey303. the (e1) clue tells me you’ve been reading Eklund. Stop wasting your time, his information is more fictional than those claymations we used to watch as kids. There is a better chance of the Heat Miser wrestling the Burgermeister at NVMC than anything that fraud writes about actually occurring.
BTW, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah, etc to CB and all of the loyal Isles fans who post. Hope 2009 is a happy one for all, notwithstanding the misfortunes of our beleagured boys in blue and orange.
BD said that the lighthouse wont happen until 2010. he can actually write unlike eklund. who is underated here. dont go there midseason but trade deadline and offseason wise he has been pretty good.
Weight and a “healthy” Sillinger will be Snow’s crown jewels at THE TRADE DEADLINE (but not before).
I see both of those guys moved to playoff bound teams needing PP and faceoff help.
Tambellini (or maybe Comeau, since Gordon clearly does not like him) will be packaged with one of them and Snow will get some decent draft picks and a couple of young potential upsiders from the other teams (We’ll give you OUR Tambellini for YOUR Tambellini-guys in need of a venue change).
Geurin is a possibily, but I don’t see him getting much in return.
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
I am sorry but I don’t see anything of significance coming back for the vets, I would load up on 2nd 3rd and 4th rounders rather than take prospects. I rather have that pick and develop them in the system then having someone else.
We are also going to need to take back some salary for next year…we need to hit the floor.
hey CB, whats the penalty for being below the cap? i think its a draft pick but i could be wrong.
Why won’t the Islanders just bring up Trevor Smith & Iggulden from bridgeport for a few games?? Fritz & Walter are a waste of time. Fritz has not saw the ice the last few games he has played. What do they have to lose they are already one of the worst teams in the NHL.Time to give them a chance at least for 2 or 3 games.
my problem with this team is we have no excitement, we have no Steve Webb. We have no hitting or real grit besides hunters “monstrous” checks that seem to be half assed. I just wish we had something to make the fans cheer when we got there besides fritz at least godard could skate faster then 3 mph
CB- this injury bug is just amazing, and is now in its second season. I know you say that it is not the training staff, and I have no reason to dispute you on that. But there has to be something. It is just too much, for too long. Can you speculate on any other possible reason, other than bad luck?
I recall that this happened to the Giants under Jim Fassel. When Tom Coughlin came in he said it was one of his priorities - keeping players on the field. He seems to have succeeded, although I cannot explain why. Any comparisons here?
I know I am grasping a little, but it is very frustrating. I know that injuries are a part of the game, and there will always be some. But we seem to get hit harder than most teams.
The difference for the Blue Jackets is that SOME YEAR - THEY have to make the playoffs. No more guaranteed sellouts in Columbus. sort of like the situation that ATL found itself in a year or two ago when they just made it…..when they guaranteed the playoffs. I think CLB would be wise to hang onto its players - but - the situation is different. The Isles GM is on record as saying “8th place is nowheresville”.
Pat
Trevor Smith is an option but he is finding his own down at Bport.
Iggulden will never come up for the Isles he is an AHL lifer
understood that hard hits get the fans excited, but that last isles home game was pretty exciting. a third period comeback against ovechkin and co. only to lose with 10.7 seconds left in OT on a vicious top-shelf wrister by the game’s best goal-scorer? that’s my idea of an exciting hockey game. it’s the 1-0 snoozers against western conference “foes” that leave me teetering on the brink of indifference.
I feel like I saw the following stat somewhere (somebody correct me if i’m wrong): 50-70% of 1st rounders eventually make it as regulars in the NHL, 30% of 2nd rounders, 10% of 3rd rounders, and just gets worse from there.
I understand the youth movement, but it seems like a longshot to bet on the odds of the 3rd round. From all I’ve read, nobody really knows what a player’s potential is until they actually make it to the NHL [um...see Tambellini]. If Snow has his pick in a trade between a 23 year old who has shown something, anything in the NHL or AHL already, or a draft pick, an 18 year old who might one day sniff at a chance of making it to the big club, I’d take the prospect.
Youth does not need to mean gamble the house on the draft. I honestly think Weight has more value to us as a point-scorer and as a mentor to the younger guys than as just 2nd/3rd round draft picks. If Snow decides to trade him, I hope we get prospects.
Rob- I agree with you,no use in Smith coming up now, he’s having a great year in the A and I beleive at this point in his development he should still be there.
Iggulden is an organizational depth player, nothing more.
I believe that every prospect beyond the high end guys like Okposo and Bailey should receive at least 2 years at the AHL level.
Why bring a prospect up now? This team is a mess and until the deadline purge happens I am content with what we have.
We have to lose. I want to lose. We have to finish last to guarantee us the 1st or 2nd pick. This franchise needs Tavares or Hedman. They are the two players in the draft with franchise potential and we thats what we need.
Bottom line.
Well, if Weight was healthy, I think they’d move him before the deadline if they got a decent offer…or should I say I would if I were GM. There’s no telling whether he keeps up a near point a game pace until the deadline, especially on this team. If you could trade him now while all the news on him is about his “amazing rebirth” rather than waiting and risking the news turning to him “falling back to earth,” then I think you do it.
As for better value at the deadline, yes that happens sometimes. But I believe it’s more important to trade when a player’s stock is high rather than insisting on waiting until the deadline. If Weight cools down, no one’s giving a first rounder (even if he doesn’t cool down, that’s a long shot), or decent prospect for him at the deadline.
Draft Hedman and so we can lose more games 1-0.
WE NEED SCORING - NOT DEFENSE !
AND DONT GIVE ME THE POTVIN BS…AT LEAST WE HAD TROTTIER AND BOSSY AND COMPANY BACK THEN.
TAVARES IS SOMEONE WE CAN GET EXCITED ABOUT…SOMEONE WE CAN RALLY AROUND…SOMEONE WHO CAN PROVIDE A SPARK..
NOTHING AGAINST HEDMAN BUT NO ONE GETS EXCITED ABOUT A SHUT DOWN DEFENSEMAN….THEIR ROLE MAY BE A CRITICAL ONE…BUT FAR FROM EXCITING…
TAVARES OR BUST !!!!!!!!!!!
When the Isles finish with the worst record and lose the lottery they may end up with Hedman. Its not that bad of a thing to happen….The Ises must get either the #1 or #2 pick. The Islanders need a Superstar.
2 more groin strains… nope, no need to at least take a serious look into strength and conditioning practices by our training staff…
Angry-
watch this video and let me know if you still feel that way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRpiOUjLxz4&feature=related
For everyone drooling at the prospect of trading Geurin and Weight, I can only imagine how bad this team would be without them. Building for the future is fine, but you still need to put a credible product on the ice. I’m a season ticket holder and I can’t stand going to the games now. If we trade Sillinger, who on this team can win a faceoff?
If Columbus makes the playoffs, that is a good story for the NHL and makes their GM look good. So trading them Weight (& maybe Guerin too) for Example - Boll, Dorsett, & draft picks might be a decent deal.
I hear you, Jeff - I’ve stated a few times that watching Weight has been one of the very few highlights for me this season. But if Garth really is “furiously working the phones” here, I doubt it’s to listen to any blow-away offers for Andy Hilbert, you know?
So IF Garth is going to trade Weight, then I’d say it’d be better to do it while he’s on a tear and his stock is high rather than waiting for the deadline and risking his stock dropping.
And in the likely event that Weight is not part of the Isles’ mid- to long-term plans, then it’d probably benefit the team to get something for him rather than letting him walk at the end of the year for nothing. Drooling? Not quite. Hoping we max out value for him if he is moved? Absolutely.
Jeff - I hate to say it but if the Islanders were to trade the veterans- Guerin, Weight, Sillinger, Comrie, & Hilbert - even fan fav Witt - they will get the same attendance either way. There is no buzz to this team like a few years ago.
I understand the desire to get back value, but unfortunately we have Garth Snow and the Isles dreadful scouting team making these calls. These guys would have passed on Potvin, Bossy and Trotts. I’ve been an Isles since 1974 and I must say this is the first time I’ve felt that the situation is entirely hopeless.
We need to trade all the vets this is a rebuild. We suck and we need hope for the future. Hope is the 20-29 yr olds. We really need to dump almost everyone over 30.
Lets get young players, picks prospects etc… Trade weight, guerin, witt, sillinger, park trade them all…
Do not forget… We cannot just trade all our vets for picks or low salary guys because we have to meet the salary cap minimum. This is a legitimate limitation that Snow has to work out. It is not impossible but those who want to see us dump all our vets do not seem to realize it will be very hard to replace all their salaries.
Good point about the salary floor. The one clever thing Snow did - and it had nothing to do with hockey - was to sign Weight to an incentive laden contract. The incentive payments count under the cap, even if not earned and paid. Therefore, if they trade Weight, they need to pick up a whole lot of salary.
ShardZ - I agree with you wholeheartedly. Get prospects, not lower round picks.
I hear your frustration, Angry … but the Isles did NOT have Trots and Bossy when they drafted Denis Potvin. They had Billy Harris and Ed Westfall and Billy Smith. Potvin was drafted in ‘73.
We need Hedman.
Tavares is exciting, but the chance at a phenominal once-in-twenty-years defenseman like Hedman?
Especially with Rick being 2 games on, 2 games blah and 2 games awful WHEN HE’S HEALTHY?
You gotta draft the amazing talent over the exciting. Tavares is possibly bouncing from #2 to #3 not so long ago in the rumor mill, but Hedman is quietly being the guy you have to take.
Besides….we have Tambellini and a coach that will play him :ROFL
We gotta keep leads. Scoring is easy enough(if you’re a capable GM with scouting you can rely on)……playing in front of Andy Sutton and Bruno Gervaise and Witt when he’s required to overspeedbump it out there?
Taveras has actually reclaimed the #1 spot with his play this year. His stock will only go up if he does well at the WJC. I could understand if Snow chose Hedman if we were lucky enough to have one of the first two but not sure if most fans would. Not that he is known for making the “popular” decision or anything! Taveras I beleive would be the better decision for the franchise because of his potential to really put butts in the seats.