Comments on: AND THE ISLANDERS’ ALL-STAR IS… http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/01/and-the-islanders-all-star-is/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=and-the-islanders-all-star-is Independent, Daily Coverage Of The New York Islanders Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:46:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: UIF http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/01/and-the-islanders-all-star-is/#comment-18868 UIF Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:07:48 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=5196#comment-18868 Every player knows that being a "bargaining chip" is part of the game...which is why there are such things as "no trade clauses" and "no movement clauses". Every player knows that being a “bargaining chip” is part of the game…which is why there are such things as “no trade clauses” and “no movement clauses”.

]]> By: Marc in Troy http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/01/and-the-islanders-all-star-is/#comment-18837 Marc in Troy Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:40:45 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=5196#comment-18837 I'm quite sure prime UFA's of the status of Kovalchuk or Bouwmeester - and their agents - understand the difference between their situations and that of a 38 yr old Doug Weight who just had to take a one year contract due to his declining production. Apples and oranges. How the Islanders would "look" to other UFA's will not determine whether they trade Weight. I’m quite sure prime UFA’s of the status of Kovalchuk or Bouwmeester – and their agents – understand the difference between their situations and that of a 38 yr old Doug Weight who just had to take a one year contract due to his declining production. Apples and oranges.

How the Islanders would “look” to other UFA’s will not determine whether they trade Weight.

]]> By: nightfly http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/01/and-the-islanders-all-star-is/#comment-18825 nightfly Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:06:37 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=5196#comment-18825 Others as well as I have said it already, but it bears repeating - it's too soon to move Doug Weight. If the Isles flip Weight after having just signed him, what does that tell other UFA's about the organization? Does it say that they're valued members of the team, or that they are just bargaining chips? Does it say that the Isles know what they're doing or that they get distracted by the latest shiny object that rolls past? He's got to play out the season, at least. It would be shortsighted to get a two and a lower prospect for the guy but then have less than no shot at a stud UFA like Kovalchuk or Bouwmeester because they get the impression that the Islanders are a revolving door organization. Keep him, let him finish the year, mentor the prospects, get on track for another one- or two-year deal; let the league's players see that we have a club that's good to its vets and its kids. He'll be grateful, Guerin will be grateful, and that kind of goodwill is invaluable. Others as well as I have said it already, but it bears repeating – it’s too soon to move Doug Weight. If the Isles flip Weight after having just signed him, what does that tell other UFA’s about the organization? Does it say that they’re valued members of the team, or that they are just bargaining chips? Does it say that the Isles know what they’re doing or that they get distracted by the latest shiny object that rolls past?

He’s got to play out the season, at least. It would be shortsighted to get a two and a lower prospect for the guy but then have less than no shot at a stud UFA like Kovalchuk or Bouwmeester because they get the impression that the Islanders are a revolving door organization. Keep him, let him finish the year, mentor the prospects, get on track for another one- or two-year deal; let the league’s players see that we have a club that’s good to its vets and its kids. He’ll be grateful, Guerin will be grateful, and that kind of goodwill is invaluable.

]]> By: BeatleBailey http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/01/and-the-islanders-all-star-is/#comment-18798 BeatleBailey Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:18:10 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=5196#comment-18798 not in under 100 words or less! :-) not in under 100 words or less! :-)

]]> By: Islander505 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/01/and-the-islanders-all-star-is/#comment-18797 Islander505 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:16:29 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=5196#comment-18797 Bravo "Rich" for comment #57. Best stuff I have seen regarding "keep or trade Weight". Just my opinion Bravo “Rich” for comment #57.
Best stuff I have seen regarding “keep or trade Weight”.

Just my opinion

]]> By: 19 ISLE in NJ 22 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/01/and-the-islanders-all-star-is/#comment-18796 19 ISLE in NJ 22 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:55:12 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=5196#comment-18796 51 kevin on Jan 8th, 2009 11:57:20 said: ig you go to the nhl part of yahoo.com. the cco line is the whos hot in the middle of the page. comrie was there before comuea and okposo were on the list I saw that myself yesterday .... that whole line has had the forwards in the NHL the past 14 days ... not bad at all. 51 kevin on Jan 8th, 2009 11:57:20 said:
ig you go to the nhl part of yahoo.com. the cco line is the whos hot in the middle of the page. comrie was there before comuea and okposo were on the list

I saw that myself yesterday …. that whole line has had the forwards in the NHL the past 14 days … not bad at all.

]]> By: KP http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/01/and-the-islanders-all-star-is/#comment-18795 KP Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:37:35 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=5196#comment-18795 Dubie got the shaft from the Isles, not for nothing. For two years, he won a ton of clutch games for the Isles and earned a new contract. Instead, he didn't because they signed Joey Mac? That was a raw deal. Joey Mac has been good, don't get me wrong, but Dubie earned the right to stay. I hope the Isles find a way to make it up to him, I'm a big fan of the little goalie that could. Dubie got the shaft from the Isles, not for nothing. For two years, he won a ton of clutch games for the Isles and earned a new contract.

Instead, he didn’t because they signed Joey Mac? That was a raw deal. Joey Mac has been good, don’t get me wrong, but Dubie earned the right to stay. I hope the Isles find a way to make it up to him, I’m a big fan of the little goalie that could.

]]> By: JohnnyC. http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/01/and-the-islanders-all-star-is/#comment-18794 JohnnyC. Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:36:11 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=5196#comment-18794 why do I get the sick feeling that hmmnnn Wilson winds up coach in Toronto, Burke (Bettmans buddy) winds up GM of Toronto, That Canada's golden boy (Tavares)will wind up in Toronto. The fix is in. Toronto moving from 3 to 1 draft lottery. Hey they did it with Pitts & Crosby. why do I get the sick feeling that hmmnnn Wilson winds up coach in Toronto,
Burke (Bettmans buddy) winds up GM of Toronto, That Canada’s golden boy (Tavares)will wind up in Toronto. The fix is in. Toronto moving from 3 to 1 draft lottery. Hey they did it with Pitts & Crosby.

]]> By: Rich http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/01/and-the-islanders-all-star-is/#comment-18793 Rich Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:35:48 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=5196#comment-18793 To Rick from LI...First Congrats to Mark Streit he is the first half team MVP. No question about that.There is a point I want to address that Rick LI made yesterday about not moving Weight. (CB I hope I am allowed to comment on yesterday's blog. It was important) Here goes...the Islanders are not the Yankees where they are close to winning anything yet. There is no justification to keep multiple veterans to teach the young kids how to win. One (Guerin or DP) will suffice. My analogy to the Yankees during their dynasty years was to add Vets such as Strawberry etc. to get the team over the top. Since we are nowhere near the top we do not need that type of tutoring from players. On teams like this it comes from the coach. That is why Gordon is right for the rebuild. So ask yourself is it more important to have Doug Weight mentor Okposo, Bailey, Comeau at the end of his career or get someone who can actually play for 10 more. To be honest his presence hasn't done much for the young guys in the scoring department. I understand your argument but it does not seem to fit this team right now. If we had a chance to win in the next one or two years I would agree with you. On a side note Doug Weight has more value than Mike Comrie. Comrie is a very soft player. Soft defensively and soft offensively. Weight won't cost the acquiring team any money. So the potential to move Weight is far greater than it would for Comrie. Sometimes we have to take off our Orange and Blue tinted glasses and see what is out there. Excuse that tiring metaphor but Hunter, Park, Comrie and Hilbert are all role players. 4th liners on other teams. Martinek has no value. Witt is getting old and slow..(very noticeable this year) Remember in the offseason when we all loved this guy. OMG he is a warrior he loves LI..retire here Brendan please. He snipes to the media this year and I have read numerous posts about moving him. Sutton no value always hurt, Pock is an absolute disaster. Gervais is undersized but serviceable 5th D-Man. Campoli I think is underrated. Please hold onto him Garth. I know I rambled but the main point is we don't have much value on our team. We need to get some by trading aging assets. Doug Weight thank you and au revoir. To Rick from LI…First Congrats to Mark Streit he is the first half team MVP. No question about that.There is a point I want to address that Rick LI made yesterday about not moving Weight. (CB I hope I am allowed to comment on yesterday’s blog. It was important) Here goes…the Islanders are not the Yankees where they are close to winning anything yet. There is no justification to keep multiple veterans to teach the young kids how to win. One (Guerin or DP) will suffice. My analogy to the Yankees during their dynasty years was to add Vets such as Strawberry etc. to get the team over the top. Since we are nowhere near the top we do not need that type of tutoring from players. On teams like this it comes from the coach. That is why Gordon is right for the rebuild. So ask yourself is it more important to have Doug Weight mentor Okposo, Bailey, Comeau at the end of his career or get someone who can actually play for 10 more. To be honest his presence hasn’t done much for the young guys in the scoring department. I understand your argument but it does not seem to fit this team right now. If we had a chance to win in the next one or two years I would agree with you. On a side note Doug Weight has more value than Mike Comrie. Comrie is a very soft player. Soft defensively and soft offensively. Weight won’t cost the acquiring team any money. So the potential to move Weight is far greater than it would for Comrie. Sometimes we have to take off our Orange and Blue tinted glasses and see what is out there. Excuse that tiring metaphor but Hunter, Park, Comrie and Hilbert are all role players. 4th liners on other teams. Martinek has no value. Witt is getting old and slow..(very noticeable this year) Remember in the offseason when we all loved this guy. OMG he is a warrior he loves LI..retire here Brendan please. He snipes to the media this year and I have read numerous posts about moving him. Sutton no value always hurt, Pock is an absolute disaster. Gervais is undersized but serviceable 5th D-Man. Campoli I think is underrated. Please hold onto him Garth. I know I rambled but the main point is we don’t have much value on our team. We need to get some by trading aging assets. Doug Weight thank you and au revoir.

]]> By: BeatleBailey http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/01/and-the-islanders-all-star-is/#comment-18792 BeatleBailey Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:33:56 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=5196#comment-18792 shutting down DP makes perfect sense to me. Let hin get fully healthy and let's TANK TANK TANK the season! shutting down DP makes perfect sense to me. Let hin get fully healthy and let’s TANK TANK TANK the season!

]]> By: Islanders1984 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/01/and-the-islanders-all-star-is/#comment-18791 Islanders1984 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:29:51 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=5196#comment-18791 CB do you knwo who is in charge of picking the reserves for the all star teams CB do you knwo who is in charge of picking the reserves for the all star teams

]]> By: UIF http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/01/and-the-islanders-all-star-is/#comment-18790 UIF Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:29:48 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=5196#comment-18790 That'd be great if Dubie came back. I know, I know, Big Mac is all the rage now and Dubie is yesterday's news...but for whatever it's worth, I'm still a big fan. That’d be great if Dubie came back. I know, I know, Big Mac is all the rage now and Dubie is yesterday’s news…but for whatever it’s worth, I’m still a big fan.

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