Comments on: ARE THE NEXT TWO DRAFTS THE MOST IMPORTANT IN ISLANDER HISTORY? http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/02/are-the-next-two-drafts-the-most-important-in-islander-history/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=are-the-next-two-drafts-the-most-important-in-islander-history Independent, Daily Coverage Of The New York Islanders Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:46:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: bcarroll25 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/02/are-the-next-two-drafts-the-most-important-in-islander-history/#comment-26602 bcarroll25 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:48:51 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=6587#comment-26602 milbury's record for drafting wasn't his only problem,his status as gm/coach was. as a gm he rushed a lot of players, then had no patience for them(and subsequently dealt a lot of players when their value was down), and as a coach he didn't develope anyone. milbury’s record for drafting wasn’t his only problem,his status as gm/coach was. as a gm he rushed a lot of players, then had no patience for them(and subsequently dealt a lot of players when their value was down), and as a coach he didn’t develope anyone.

]]> By: isles316 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/02/are-the-next-two-drafts-the-most-important-in-islander-history/#comment-26586 isles316 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:15:45 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=6587#comment-26586 I agree Kevin. The last Islander draft pick to score 15 goals for the Isles is Ziggy Palffy. That shows how poorly they have drafted and/or the inability to hold on to some players. I agree Kevin. The last Islander draft pick to score 15 goals for the Isles is Ziggy Palffy. That shows how poorly they have drafted and/or the inability to hold on to some players.

]]> By: hextall72 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/02/are-the-next-two-drafts-the-most-important-in-islander-history/#comment-26574 hextall72 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 04:48:47 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=6587#comment-26574 nice read kevin.. nice for us fans to read good articles nice read kevin.. nice for us fans to read good articles

]]> By: Chris TMC http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/02/are-the-next-two-drafts-the-most-important-in-islander-history/#comment-26572 Chris TMC Thu, 05 Feb 2009 04:33:16 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=6587#comment-26572 19 ISLE in NJ 22 on Feb 4th, 2009 18:17:11 said: "I think Torrey’s last draft pick with the Isles that produced a substantial player was Brian McCabe in 93 … Milbury did have the advantage of numerous early 1st rounders in the late 90s to draft some good players … but none of em ever had the chance to develop on the Isles. Not all MM’s fault either..." People love to say what a poor drafter MM was but its not necessarily true. If you want to see some interesting stats about what teams are the best drafters, check this out: http://i44.tinypic.com/313goq8.jpg 19 ISLE in NJ 22 on Feb 4th, 2009 18:17:11 said: “I think Torrey’s last draft pick with the Isles that produced a substantial player was Brian McCabe in 93 … Milbury did have the advantage of numerous early 1st rounders in the late 90s to draft some good players … but none of em ever had the chance to develop on the Isles. Not all MM’s fault either…”
People love to say what a poor drafter MM was but its not necessarily true. If you want to see some interesting stats about what teams are the best drafters, check this out:
http://i44.tinypic.com/313goq8.jpg

]]> By: CMB http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/02/are-the-next-two-drafts-the-most-important-in-islander-history/#comment-26571 CMB Thu, 05 Feb 2009 04:30:35 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=6587#comment-26571 For the last couple of decades, I have thought that Jim Dellavano going to the Red Wings damaged the Islanders franchise tremendously. After he left, the Islanders have made a lot of bad high draft picks. Hopefully, the contemporary scouting staff will approach the level of the 1970s Islanders drafts. For the last couple of decades, I have thought that Jim Dellavano going to the Red Wings damaged the Islanders franchise tremendously. After he left, the Islanders have made a lot of bad high draft picks.

Hopefully, the contemporary scouting staff will approach the level of the 1970s Islanders drafts.

]]> By: SIR WILLIAM http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/02/are-the-next-two-drafts-the-most-important-in-islander-history/#comment-26569 SIR WILLIAM Thu, 05 Feb 2009 03:47:47 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=6587#comment-26569 I've got five bucks here that says Witt and Martinek both stay right here. Both are outstanding vlues for the money they are signed for. Snow is not an idiot and is not giving away either of our top two d-man unless he gets blown away by an offer. Comrie goes, Weight goes and Guerin goes if the right team wants him. My money is on Boston which is close enought for him to commute. Hilbert may go to a team looking for a penalty killer-4 th line grinder.......SW I’ve got five bucks here that says Witt and Martinek both stay right here. Both are outstanding vlues for the money they are signed for. Snow is not an idiot and is not giving away either of our top two d-man unless he gets blown away by an offer.

Comrie goes, Weight goes and Guerin goes if the right team wants him. My money is on Boston which is close enought for him to commute. Hilbert may go to a team looking for a penalty killer-4 th line grinder…….SW

]]> By: bcarroll25 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/02/are-the-next-two-drafts-the-most-important-in-islander-history/#comment-26568 bcarroll25 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 03:41:23 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=6587#comment-26568 forget the injuries,the only gm who would take ricky ahead of luongo is the one out of a job forget the injuries,the only gm who would take ricky ahead of luongo is the one out of a job

]]> By: Differ http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/02/are-the-next-two-drafts-the-most-important-in-islander-history/#comment-26560 Differ Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:43:38 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=6587#comment-26560 Strummer, are you serious about Luongo?? Have you ever seen him play? Marty Turco?!? Strummer, are you serious about Luongo?? Have you ever seen him play? Marty Turco?!?

]]> By: mrlbem http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/02/are-the-next-two-drafts-the-most-important-in-islander-history/#comment-26555 mrlbem Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:50:17 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=6587#comment-26555 Was the 1st/2nd round combo of Bertuzzi and McCabe selected by Torrey or Maloney? Was the 1st/2nd round combo of Bertuzzi and McCabe selected by Torrey or Maloney?

]]> By: DonK http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/02/are-the-next-two-drafts-the-most-important-in-islander-history/#comment-26551 DonK Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:13:15 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=6587#comment-26551 Torrey has often said the move from drafting 20-year-olds to 18-year-olds was one of the biggest changes in NHL history. His contention, pretty accurate, is that you went from drafting relatively fully-developed players to a crapshoot. I would be loathe to argue with him. BTW: Poster above was right -- Hunter was a 6th-round pick in 1998 by Anaheim, which gave him away for a 4th-rounder in 2000. Even Milbury made a couple of decent trades. Torrey has often said the move from drafting 20-year-olds to 18-year-olds was one of the biggest changes in NHL history. His contention, pretty accurate, is that you went from drafting relatively fully-developed players to a crapshoot. I would be loathe to argue with him.

BTW: Poster above was right — Hunter was a 6th-round pick in 1998 by Anaheim, which gave him away for a 4th-rounder in 2000. Even Milbury made a couple of decent trades.

]]> By: bcarroll25 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/02/are-the-next-two-drafts-the-most-important-in-islander-history/#comment-26547 bcarroll25 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:18:17 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=6587#comment-26547 torrey wasn't drafting 18 year olds in the 70's,check his results when he had to. torrey wasn’t drafting 18 year olds in the 70′s,check his results when he had to.

]]> By: admin http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/02/are-the-next-two-drafts-the-most-important-in-islander-history/#comment-26545 admin Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:43:16 +0000 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/?p=6587#comment-26545 Maybe I'm crazy when it comes to evaluating Luongo and hopefully I'm not overestimating him because he used to be an Islander. But he has stolen a ton of games for the Canucks the past few seasons. His numbers from the 06-07 playoffs (small sample, yes) 1.77 and .941. The Canucks record in those games? 5-7. FIsles #49 -- great point about developing players. It seems now the org is committed to doing that (and doing it well), something that may not have been the case in past years. -Kevin Maybe I’m crazy when it comes to evaluating Luongo and hopefully I’m not overestimating him because he used to be an Islander. But he has stolen a ton of games for the Canucks the past few seasons. His numbers from the 06-07 playoffs (small sample, yes) 1.77 and .941. The Canucks record in those games? 5-7.

FIsles #49 — great point about developing players. It seems now the org is committed to doing that (and doing it well), something that may not have been the case in past years.

-Kevin

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