TRUE VALUE: Mike Comrie
Experienced No. 2 playmaking center available
by Chris Botta
Our month-long series analyzing the value of Islanders veterans and the possibility of a deal before the March 4 trade deadline.
Player: Mike Comrie, C/LW
The Story: The 28-year old forward was considered a possible trade chip at last year’s deadline but instead agreed to terms with the Islanders on a one-year contract extension. Although he struggled early this season in his comeback from hip surgery, Comrie’s play picked up after given a few extra weeks of rest and rehabilitation. Prior to his recent placement on a line with fellow future UFAs Doug Weight and Bill Guerin, Comrie was credited for his playmaking and leadership on an effective trio with kids Kyle Okposo and Blake Comeau.
Stats: 7-12-19 in 33 games.
Pluses: Like Doug Weight, Comrie has already demonstrated his value as a mid-season pickup. Two years ago, he was acquired by Ottawa and was part of their Eastern Conference title team. In a league where even the top teams don’t feature many players on pace for 40 points, Comrie is there despite the slow start to this season. He brings skill on the power play and the occasional flyweight fight. He’s also healthier than he’s been in two years.
Minuses: Despite decent production so far, a good month playing with Guerin and Weight would go a long way towards increasing the interest of contenders and the Islanders’ price for Comrie.
Trade Hurdles: Even at the March 4 deadline, his prorated salary of $4 million could be difficult for some teams to absorb.
Wild Card: Management likes Comrie and knows their team needs skilled centers in their prime for next season. Josh Bailey on his own isn’t going to get it done. Another contract extension for Comrie is not completely out of the question.
The GM Sales Pitch: “Take a look at the few teams that are selling and who’s available. How many players on the market can step right in and be a solid No. 2 center like Comrie? The guy’s 28 and was terrific when we put him between a pair of kids just coming on like Okposo and Comeau. Think about how good he’s going to look on your team. His hip? No issues there. I’ll send you over the report.”
True Value: a second round pick and a fifth round pick
PB View: Comrie is a playmaker with good vision who likes to slow down the game and make the pass. As much as they have tried, it’s apparent Comrie is not a great fit for the giddyup system of Scott Gordon. As a number two center with recent Cup Final experience, Comrie is a valuable commodity. Although it’s highly unlikely they will be able to pry a top prospect from another team, the Islanders must maximize his value in a trade.
Prediction (as of Feb. 5*): Comrie will be traded on March 4 for draft picks.
*True Value maintains the right to routinely change our predictions between now and the week before the trade deadline!
Comments.
84 Responses to TRUE VALUE: Mike Comrie
Experienced No. 2 playmaking center available
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islestherapy says:
i’ll buy everyone a round of drinks when Comrie is traded. i’m tired of his noodle-armed wrist shots.
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bumper says:
Comrie reminds me of Blake right before his big scoring year.
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"Semi-Dissillusioned Brian" in VA says:
Trade Comrie. Could we get a decent prospect for him we already have a plethora of draft picks. I wish Pock the best as he is injured but he is not a very good D-Man.
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Steve-O says:
He would be an asset at $2.5 million. Otherwise cut him loose.
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mw147 says:
I would trade Comrie and keep Weight.
Sounds like you think their value on the trade market is similar. That may be true, but I think Weight brings more value to the Islanders.
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Dan says:
How many second round picks can you have? At this point wouldn’t it be better to get a second rounder next year so that you can have future depth??
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Matt says:
Please, please, please, please, trade Comrie. If I never see another toe drag it will be too soon, I always think I’m watching a pick-up game when he is on the ice! Get as many picks as you can in this years better chance of hitting on someone who is special!
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In regards to how many picks can we have…In a deep draft year such as the one coming up…the more, the merrier… Comrie will not benefit this team, in the long term, therefore, trade him and wish him all the best for the remainder of his career.
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JayK says:
When CB says a “second rounder,” I think we assume it will be in ’09, but maybe not.
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michael says:
a few things about comrie you left out chris. first, he has a DEVASTATING toe drag move with the puck (altho i dont know if it devastates the islander fans or the opposing team worse), and secondly, he has a shot that rivals only bruno gervais!!
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Quez says:
Wishing Mike well in his career, but it is kinda clear that he would flourish in another system. Keeping fingers crossed that a playoff bound team loses their 2nd line center right around the deadline. HilDuff can stay, though. Make her an IceBreaker!
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joey303 says:
The GM Sales Pitch: “Take a look at the few teams that are selling and who’s available. How many players on the market can step right in and be a solid No. 2 center like Comrie? The guy’s 28 and was terrific when we put him between a pair of kids just coming on like Okposo and Comeau.
For this reason, IMO a 2nd a 5th does not warrant a trade. Keep him if thats all the Isles can get. A 2nd and a decent prospect -then do it
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cgs878 says:
When it comes to salary, do we really care if Comrie makes $2 million or $4 million a year? We’d be jealous of him either way. Salary is just the “cost of doing business” for an NHL team, and it should have no bearing on how us fans view a player. Last I checked, players didn’t work on commission.
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Ryan says:
I think I might be the only one that wouldn’t trade Comrie unless the deal knocked my socks off. He can play wing, he can make plays and he’s a great team guy. Plus he’s only 28
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I would love to see him go… His last goal wasn’t even his… He looses puck more often than not, he’s not strong on one on one and quite slow. 2nd and 5th will be just fine. I am sure Frans will be a number one center from March 4 to the end if this season.
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ryan (#15) you really think he’s a great team guy? he is skating at full speed maybe 30% of the time.. he takes more shifts off than anyone else on the team and his backchecking leaves MUCH to be desired.
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Ryan on Feb 5th, 2009 09:49:21 said: “I think I might be the only one that wouldn’t trade Comrie unless the deal knocked my socks off. He can play wing, he can make plays and he’s a great team guy. Plus he’s only 28…”
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You are not the only one.16 IslesFanInBrooklyn on Feb 5th, 2009 09:50:07 said: I would love to see him go… His last goal wasn’t even his…
“His last goal was great- cashing in on a goalies careless mistake. If youre talking about Streits goal that they temporarily credited to him, even on the ice a moment after the goal he pointed to Streit and credited him with it. Sheesh.”16 IslesFanInBrooklyn on Feb 5th, 2009 09:50:07 said: “I am sure Frans will be a number one center from March 4 to the end if this season.”
I am sure that you are wrong.
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rb says:
Comrie for yet another 2nd round pick?…why bother?…if he’s included as part of a bigger trade to bring back a current young NHL or NHL-ready player, then okay…but I agree with comment 12, Duff can’t be part of the deal!
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Word says:
The REAL True Value:
Mike Comrie – a second round pick
Hilary Duff at your home games – a fifth round pick
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JPinVA says:
I’d love to see what Snow’s Roster looks like for October 2009. Signing Comrie gives them a stronger LW/C option and keeps them above the payroll floor. He’s not old, and he has been playing his best hockey since the [hip] rehab in Minn. I think I’d be a little cautious as to a length of extension, but if Snow could get comrie for one more year I would take that as a positive move.
I’d feel okay with Comrie/Comeau/Bergie as the top three LWs. they are already stuck with tambellini and Sim for another year. Hilbert may be the odd man out here.
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Jimmy Mac says:
I like Comrie. He has been hurt this season.
Last year he was our best player. He is only 28 yrs old.
He can play centre and wing.
I still say trade Guerin, and Weight for draft picks.
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Islander505 says:
Matt #8…from my perpsective Comrie’s YTD number of toe drags is way down over last year. But his passes to no one, and the number of cups of coffee opposing goalies drink while awaiting one of his SOG to arrive are way up.
Chris Botta…..
Luv ya….
But…..
There’s a future for you in a used car lot.If Snow can get a 2nd round pick for Comrie, he get’s my vote for NHL executive of the year, and may well become the First North American Business Executive indicted by the Obama Administration.
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#18 Chris TMC I didn’t know that they changed it to Streit. I appologies… But it doesn’t change my oppinion about Comrie. He was good last season but right now his value to this team is quite low IMHO…
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UIF says:
Comrie certainly has value to the Isles, but if he had NO value to the worst team in the league, would we even be talking about a potential return in a trade? If he has value here, maybe he has value elsewhere that will better fit the Isles’ plans. If we are determined to keep every vet who has some value to the Isles, why not just re-sign everyone and just waive Sim, and there you go…your 2009-10 Islanders.
I don’t think Comrie really adds anything that’s irreplaceable on the FA market. Might as well replace him with similar talent there and add a pick or prospect to boot. Just my opinion.
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If Snow can get a 2nd round pick for Comrie, he deserves a Geo Metro carload full of wonderful gifts, including (but not limited to) the 2009 Model of an autographed P.T. Barnum Bobblehead.
(It’s a good thing there are blog rules in place that limit how many times I can post comments about an individual blog…but then again, I think I have made my point…and it’s just my opinion…from two time zones away).
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The return is really the only thing that would stand in the way of trading Comrie, imo. 2nd rounder? I’d do it. But take a look at what Phoenix got when they traded Comrie to Ottawa. Let me know if any of you ever heard of the guy, because I haven’t.
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Okay….one more….
“True Value: a second round pick and a fifth round pick”
That’s an insult to hardware stores everywhere.Should read:
Microsoft Value: a low third round pick and a hot looking young starlet girlfriend to be named later.
okay….done now.
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Spinner9 says:
I know I’m in the minority but I think Comrie is an asset. Unless someone makes a big offer I see no problem with keeping him. Despite coming off hip surgery and playing hurt early in the season his point totals are not bad. Pro-rate that over a whole season and its almost 50 points. Is he a star, no. But he does produce and is only 28 years old and can play multiple positions.
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Islanders1984 says:
If comrie can get a 2nd and a 5th then Weight should be able to get a 1st on his own
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Jim says:
We’ll get the second rounder, pick some kid, Botta will be telling us the kid is the second coming of Bossy, and then the kid will amount to nothing (like most 2nd rounders do).
That’s how I see this going down.
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Brian G says:
Snow should get as many draft picks in 2009 or prospects he can for:
Weight (2nd round pick & prospect)Guerin (2nd round pick or 3rd round pick & b-level prospect)
Comrie (2nd round pick & 5th round Pick)
Witt (2nd round pick or 3rd round pick & prospect)
Hilbert (6th or 7th round pick)
Park (2nd round pick or don’t trade him)
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Brett says:
They should definitely trade Comrie. I’d take almost anything in return. He frustrates me almost as much as Yashin(though his expectations aren’t as high). Between toe drags, molasses speed, blind passes, cross ice passes moving 3 mph and weakness on the puck this guy has almost no value in my book. I don’t understand how he puts up the numbers he does because watching him play exemplifies the exact opposite of what Gordon preaches. Please take him.
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Andreas the Badger says:
The guy is on pace for 40 points in 65 games or so even though he was hurt in many games. He scored 49 points and lead the team last year. How is he not worth 4 mill? I’d like to see that argument.
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Lets not forget that you will need to sign any prospect to contracts or else they are eligible to re-enter the draft. Having to sign 10 second round picks could potentially just lead to guys going back into the draft next year or whenever. There are only so many roster spots why not save a 2nd rounder for next year?
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Brett – “I don’t understand how he puts up the numbers he does”
That’s his value, imo. He can finish off a play and doesn’t completely lose his mind when he’s within 5 ft of the net. Heck even in the beer leagues I’ve played in, there are guys who are slower and weaker skaters than I am who double my production because they have more of a knack for getting to the right spot than I do.
Still, I stand by my comment that we can find similar production in the FA market, and if we can’t convince even a Mike Comrie caliber player to come here by over-paying a bit, then maybe we need a new salesman in addition to a new arena. I’d rather have a Comrie-clone plus a pick or prospect rather than just extending Comrie by himself for another year.
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The thing with Comrie is, with his skill set he could be a number one center… but there’s something uninterested about him. I don’t mean that he’s lazy, because obviously he has to work very hard to keep an NHL job and rehab from his injury. It’s like the toe drags… why hasn’t he developed different moves against defenders? Why does he never seem to change gears and catch guys flat-footed? Why not develop a sharper shot – change his stick or his grip or something! It’s almost like he’s worked very hard to be just good enough, but not to ever get better.
As a number two on a team with a dangerous first line, I could be very happy with his 20g-30a. As a team’s LEADING scorer – making $4 million? That’s too much money. It’s not good value to give a number-two center 7% of one’s cap… Luckily his deal is over this year, and if the team still wants him can try to sign him for something more reasonable.
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I’m pretty sure 505 is on his third screwdriver (speaking of hardware stores).
Signing Comrie pushes Bergy down the depth chart and almost guarentees Sim/tambellini press credentials. If you drop Guerin and Weight then you are looking at a pretty big drop off in CAREER production from Comrie (.66ppg) to Jon Sim (.30ppg) at LW. Hilbert (.35) is not signed. The best SIGNED center would be Nielsen (.31).
Nielsen just looks so good right now. When Bergie is ready, play him on that line. If they put up good numbers then comrie is expendable. If not, then Comrie in that slot is a nice option next year.
True Value: Get a 3rd rounder for First Base Andy. I know the guy has done EVERYTHING he has been asked, but please don’t waste money on him in July…PLEASE. -
One more comment then I’m done with Comrie. I think nightfly explained it better than I did. Yeah, he puts up decent numbers, but he doesn’t ever seem to try something different or be a little better. He has skill, but it’s like he perfected a few things and said this will be good enough. You see guys like Jackman, and Hilbert bust it very shift and put up a few points, but you know they are trying their hardest. I don’t want a 15 Jackmans or Hilberts on the team, but that’s the mentality we need from our skill guys and Comrie just doesn’t show it.
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Vlad from Brooklyn says:
The reason to trade Comrie is Comrie himself. He is what he is. He will produce numbers when there is the right set of players being with him on the same line. Isles dont have that. Neither they going to look those for him. Is there different style Isles playing now – yes. Is Comrie goes with the changes – no! He is the same Comrie from last season. If Snow find the right team for him to fit, I’d say do it. Plus we will get the most value for the trade. Hope CB is right and 2nd round pick is possible.
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Isles1972 says:
Trade him. He is way too inconsistent. The big question here is, if the Isles trade Weight and Comrie, who fills in at the centre spot?
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AngryPete says:
I like Comrie a lot. I think he’s a great supporting-cast type of guy. I don’t think he can get it done alone. I hope he stays….just not a focal point of the offense.
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“The big question here is, if the Isles trade Weight and Comrie, who fills in at the centre spot?”
I would say the same way we got Weight and Comrie…free agency. At least until some of the kids earn top-two line minutes. Heck, Comrie’s not even playing center at the moment, so if Bailey, Nielson, and Thompson (or Park, or Hilbert) continue as 2, 3, and 4, we’re really just looking for a replacement at 1. In a perfect world, we throw a boatload of money at Cammaleri, who’s younger and better than Comrie…but I’m sure he’ll end up somewhere else. So we go with the second and third tier, which is how we got Comrie and Weight anyway. Guys like that will be available, imo. and the pluss is we get the picks and/or prospects for trading them. Makes the most sense to me for a rebuild.
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Supply, demand: These are good guesses to the trade values, but the fun will be in watching how many teams need a center (Montreal?) and how many centers are out there. If StL re-signs Andy McDonald (or if he doesn’t heal in time to be a trade target), the Isles’ asking price goes up.
If I’m a contending GM, I’m not dealing my 1st-rounder for Weight or Comrie. BUT: The Don Waddells of the world still waddle among us.
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Jon says:
A main reason Comrie likes playing on LI and would stick around is because of Hillary. I say we trade him for a second rounder and resign him next year just like Weight.
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Willis says:
I’ll give Comrie points for sticking up for his teammates but I don’t think he’s been a huge help to the Isles and vice versa. (I love the comment comparing his shot to Gervais’, almost spit out my water!). His hustle has all but disappeared again. If they offer him another year I hope its an incentive type thing and if so I can probably live with it. I’d like to see him go though and I HOPE they can get something for him – 2nd and 5th is fine.
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Dmarie says:
Great post C! And Gordon’s Giddyup! I love that! And I think that’s what people are mis-understanding.
Comrie’s not a bad player he just plays a different style and can’t seem to pick up his pace to fit the so called system and yes he’s been fighitng injuries but nonetheless Comrie didn’t fit Gordon’s Giddyup ways even when healthy and probably would be better for him to make a move elsewhere to a team he’d fit with. -
19 ISLE in NJ 22 says:
CB … I’d say you pretty much laid out some good arguements supporting Comrie’s trade value.
I’ll argue that although I’m not the biggest fan of Comrie .. that if the Isles can’t get a reasonable return for Comrie … that they should not only hold onto him … but resign him for TWO … yes … TWO years at a discount … I see an upside to Comrie … and if they hold onto Comrie then they have to trade Weight … of course if they can’t get a return on Weight …. they should hold him for at least another year and extend him … we can’t assume that we are going to get JT and that he’d fill their role.
Bailey isn’t going to be ready for 1st line center action for at least another year … that is the benefit of keeping him on the Isles this year … I’ve actually been able to see where JB stands against his NHL peers … he’s exceeded as a 19 year old … but not ready for primet time.
IF … and that is a big IF … we get JT … then we may be going into training camp with JT, JB, FN, and possibly holding onto MC & DW… at center … if we trade both MC & DW you can see we are left with a very inexperienced center corps … So Mike Comrie’s trade value HAS to have a big return for us to consider letting him go for less than a 2nd rounder.
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I’d also like to add … that it makes it much harder to let go of an experienced player like Mike Comrie when you are relying on drafting 18 year olds … they are less likey able to jump right into the NHL and be IMPACT players … they lack both the experience and physical maturity of a seasoned player like MC … some kids (Man Childs) can have the physical maturity … but lack experience.
In a previous thread bcarroll25 & DonK both brought up Bill Torrey’s objection to lowering the draft age to 18 … making drafting more like a crap shoot … both of them are right … and so is BT .. IMO …
Funny thing is … the ONLY time I ever got to meet Mr. Torrey was working for Fox and covering a Panthers game … I happened to mention drafting to him and the lowering of the draft age and how much I felt it was a diservice to both players and teams that really rely on getting the best players … Bill’s eyes lit up and we got into a 10 minute convo about how the 18 year old draft age really hurts building teams b/c not only do they need to wait longer to see a return on their scouting investment dollars … but … there is a greater chance that they may not see a return at all.
That being said … the union would never go for raising the draft age. So … we just may be stuck holding onto the Comrie’s of the league until our players develop.
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Dadi says:
He’s the only Islanders’ player I can’t stand. I just hate his body language – his skating, his toe-drags and fact he can’t shoot the puck. Paying player like Mike Comrie $4 mil. is insane…So I hope and pray he’s playing his last games on Long Island.
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HilbertSnipe says:
Always have hated Comrie. I swear… one of my passes is harder than his wrist shot. His toe-drags aren’t good and never get the job done with about two exceptions. He could be a MUCH faster skater but he glides into the offensive zone when he really should be still skating. He has no size. He has no shot. He makes soft passes. He his horrible defensively. But he is bangin Hillary Duff.
Why?
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isles316 says:
I think if Comrie brings back anything higher than a 3rd rounder I’d be surprised. Last year at the deadline, draft picks weren’t being thrown around that easy. It’s a big reason why guys like Fedetenko and such weren’t traded.
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Just release Sim or get some other team to take him in a trade with another player
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bystander says:
“It’s like the toe drags… why hasn’t he developed different moves against defenders? Why does he never seem to change gears and catch guys flat-footed? Why not develop a sharper shot – change his stick or his grip or something! It’s almost like he’s worked very hard to be just good enough, but not to ever get better.”
good description of comrie. what i notice too is that he seems to make wrong choices with the puck a lot. i’ve said before that he seems to pass when he should shoot, and shoots when the pass looks like a better play. it’s a weird thing about him. he just seems to lack that knack, a sense of where the play should go. if he had it he could be a consistent 30 goal guy i think.
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stevedepot says:
The most frustrating thing for me about Comrie was highly evident in the 3rd period against the Bolts the other night. 4 different times on the powerplay, on wind arounds from Guerin and Weight…Comrie had a chance to go hard towards the boards, take a hit to make a play and he coasted, leading to turnovers and the puck being dumped out.
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redzi says:
wouldn’t the isles be able to pry a prospect (zhitnik – coburn), a player closer to the nhl rather than an 18yr old crap-shoot?
i would think this might be more plausible.
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I was a huge critic of General Toe Drag. However, Comrie produces. Yes, he does lack skating speed and shot speed. This is construed as laziness.
As a slow skater … you try as much as possible to not put yourself at a disadvantage positionally or you get left in the dust. That is why MC finds himself in the right spot to produce … he is more efficient with his decisions than players faster than himself … he turns a disadvantage into an advantage.
MC doesn’t have all the tools, but he’s found a way to make it on the score sheet with “Hockey Smarts.”
His last goal was evidence of how he capitalizes on his chances.
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Light House Hockey said it best … Supply and Demand..
If there are only 5 centers of variable skill to salary ratio .. then that will impact Comrie’s trade value one way or another … if there are 10 centers of variable skill to salary ratio … then I can’t see this helping increase Comrie’s trade value.
His salary even at the deadline might be the albatross of any deal … not his toe dragging … Comrie has other intangibles that a team may value.
The whole Supply and Demand thing also impacts our other players on the block … I’ll also add DESPERATION to the variable that impacts the value of players.
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for me it’s not that i think comrie’s terrible or had to go. i don’t think he loafs like some others seem to think, it’s more lack of burning speed or quickness, and i love that he sticks up for his teammates and is a pretty tough guy. but he’s frustrating to watch sometimes. i feel the same about bergenheim. i expect more from those guys.
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redzi on Feb 5th, 2009 14:04:04 said: “wouldn’t the isles be able to pry a prospect (zhitnik – coburn), a player closer to the nhl rather than an 18yr old crap-shoot? i would think this might be more plausible
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Sure… if you want yet another forward prospect thats not projected to be top six. Because if the prospect was a 1st or 2nd liner, why would they give him to us? -
kevin says:
how many sellers are there this year. this is where garth can cash in. playoff teams need depth in scoring and the isles are perfect for that. cant wait. also from last article regarding marc from troy here is my response to you regarding pock: marc, no reason to be a smart ass. we pickedhim off waivers and i am pretty sure we were close to last so maybe another team wants him. maybe a team close to playoffs as depth in case someone gets hurt so they want him as a seventh dman. no reason to be a jackass
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chris tmc, the only reason i think they would do that is if they were as desperate as atlanta but otherwise i agree with you on post 61. thats why we need as many offers as possible and for snow to start early so we dont end up like we did with the almost huselius trade. cant wait till the last minute
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Dooks94 says:
The Islanders are going nowhere so trading the veterans away for picks/prospects is the way to go. This team is so bad that the veteran leadership possesed by Weight, Guerin, Witt goes pretty much unnoticed. If Snowy can get anything for these guys then he should do it. The only “veterans” I would keep are Richard Park, who has become the MVP of the team, Radek Martinek, who’s an excellent two-way d-man, it’s just too bad the guy simply cannot stay healthy and Trent Hunter, who we locked up for 3 more years I think. Hunter will be named the next Captain.
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“Hunter will be named the next Captain.”
That would be OK…either Hunter or Streit, imo, who should be here for a while. I think I remember reading that he captains the Swiss national team, and he seems to be level headed, and respected around the league.
Either would be a good choice.
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Speaking of transaction scuttlebutt, Jussi Jokinen is on waivers again.
I wouldn’t claim him, but I think I remember some here pushing for him — so there’s more fodder to toss around for ya!
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I think the Islanders need a captain with a bit more grit than Hunter. I like him, but Kevin made a great point in the game recap the other night. When was the last time someone accidentally ran our goalie and our captain went after that player?
Too too soft.
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SIR WILLIAM says:
The Islanders will not set the market for Comrie. Injuries and desperation by other GM’s will. If a team that feels that they can make a run needs a number 2 center, than the price goes up and Comrie goes away.
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comries stats before and after resting hip in minn
before: 14 games 2 goals and 6 assists for 8 points
after: 19 games 5 goals 6 assists and 11 points
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Ed J says:
Big upside to Comrie, I say keep him!!!
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isles316, hunter did go after motteua though, so thats leadership. personaly, i think the captain should have a response
either directed at the player or the players teammate by either fighting, hitting or just getting on the scoresheet. but i think the team as one needs a resonse not just the captain. it all goes back to having a fighter on the team. can we trade comrie and say a 4th for their 5th, 2nd and rights to comrie prior to the free agency? i would want him back. just something to consider. -
That is true Kevin. Hunter might step up that role if he is captain also. I’d feel like he wouldn’t take it lightly.
Sometimes I feel like Guerin coasts through games with his intensity.
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Did anyone follow the live chat Logan just had? From the last question he answered I am starting to get the feeling that even if Isles wind up with the 1st overall pick. Snow will be taking Hedman Over Tavares.
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Keep in mind .. playoff caliber teams on the upper tier … usually are OK with scorers … they may place higher value on the 2-way player … because shutting down the opponent’s offense during the playoffs is a very desirable trait.
I think this is where Silli would of made a great trade asset … but that is not an option anymore.
Radek Martinek a good 2-way defenseman?? Mr. 1 goal in 100+ games?? 11 career goals in 341 games?? 2 points on the year??
Radek is a great shut down defenseman … but he’ll never be confused with Mark Steit’s offensive prowess… or even Bruno Gervais’ for that matter.
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1984 … I doubt very much that Snow consults with Logan regarding who he picks… I don’t think Logan or anyone outside to organization know who Snow is favoring. Heck … didn’t last year’s draft teach us anything? Just when ya think you know what Snow is thinking … he throws ya a curve ball. I think … Think that is … I don’t know … but I think he’ll take the best player available.
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I hope so, but I have also gotten that feeling from CB as well. Its no definate that Snow chooses Tavares has been siad on this blog. Now I know both players are consider very good, but for this team Tavares will not only bring talent but he will bring positive attention to the Islanders. Soemthing Isles haven’t really had in awhile. I mean the two biggest newsmaking storys for the isles in the last few years have been
1-Chris Simon and his two different suspensions and
2- The fact that the team could be moved to Kansas city.
Both negative things. Tavares will be a simportant off teh ice as he is on.
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1984 (73): I didn’t get that feeling from Logan’s answer at all. I think it was more a note of caution: Despite the WJC, Tavares and Hedman are still essentially 1A and 1B, and there is an argument that truly cornerstone D-men (who are big defenders AND can score) are harder to find.
But because the sexier and quicker-payoff pick is Tavares, it would stir quite a lot of concern (including my own) if they went with the D-man.
(P.S. I meant to say earlier that Jussi Jok. had *cleared* waivers … which means re-entry waivers may come soon).
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I would hope the Islanders take Tavares.
Tavares,Bailey,Nielson as your top 3 centers is potentially as solid as any in the league come a few years.
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The Isles need to Trade their Vet’s, bring up the youngster’s, play spirted, competetive, hockey, finish, last, win the lottery, and select Tavares, period. Thanks, Mark
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Anyone who thinks Witt is only worth a second or a third has Milburyitis. And those who think Comrie is an assett I dont know what to say to ya! If we get a second for Comrie we are lucky and should be estatic with it!
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Brett post 34 pretty much hit it on the head!!
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Comrie or weight will be staying. They will not leave Bailey as the only decent center next year. My guess is Comrie will stay, especially since he has some success with playing with the kids. Watch out for Witt, Guerin, Martinek, Meyer, Sutton, Park and Hilbert to go. Sources out there indicate alot of interest in Park too. Killing penalties in the playoffs are key to survival. Be prepared for some other players to move on. Some we probably have not talked much about or thought of.
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I think your assessment of Comrie is right on. Given is lack of size, speed and explosiveness he has the hockey sense to make himself as efficient as possible offensively. He may not be pretty but he is productive. We just don’t have a whole lot of production potential right now (take Weight and Guerin out of the equation). Who else on this team projects as productive point producers? Obviously Okposo and Bailey, probably Nilsson……… Not Bergenheim, he frustates me more than any other player. I thought this year would be his breakout year but despite his all-out style most of his energy is wasted effort and unproductive. He seems to have very little situational awareness of the big picture when he’s out there. Comeau is a nice complement to Bailey and Okposo, but I see him as the mucker and digger on the line, never going to big a real scorer. Who else? We know what we get from Hunter, Park, Hilbert,Jackman etc. I think you trade Comrie only if you get a really good deal, otherwise keep him around for another year or two.
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Comrie is not a good player he was -21 last year, he had 49 points and a ton of ice time to go along with it. I know + – is a touchy stat but the guy makes some of the worst passes I have ever seen. He is slow and gets knocked off the puck way too easy. He is hard to watch. He is constantly out of position and just pretty much sucks. If we got offered a second we would be lucky. He is a third line center on a decent team not even a good one! Everyone is worried about the kids learning from the vets. Do you really want someone playing with them that epitomizes laziness? Edmonton was aware of this as well as Ottawa. He is well known as a slacker who plays like he doesn’t care. Time to take out the trash Garth!!!!!
This guy makes me wish players were paid solely on their production, if that was the case, this guy would be making 2/3 of what he is now, which is more in line for this production. Note to Garth, if you re-up him, it better not include a raise, more like a salary cut.