OFFERS FOR MARTINEK UNDER CONSIDERATION
Unheralded dman could go before trade deadline
1:02 pm - While the Bill Guerin saga remains a mystery with no solution in sight, interest in underrated defenseman Radek Martinek continues to heat up. The Islanders are considering at least three trade proposals, according to league sources. The 32-year old Czech has shown once again over the last few weeks that, when healthy, he is an extremely reliable two-way defenseman. The league seems to have taken notice.
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158 Responses to OFFERS FOR MARTINEK UNDER CONSIDERATION
Unheralded dman could go before trade deadline
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nyislanders93 says:
Sounds good to me. Trade him as fast as possible. His value will likely be driven up a ton by the fact that there are multiple teams interested.
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Moose says:
Yes. Yes, Yes. Yes. YESSSS. Now, please! He’s a solid reliable D-Man when on the ice WHO IS NEVER ON THE ICE.
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Nick says:
Yea, I wouldn’t accept less than a 2nd round pick. Hopefully since more than 1 team is bidding, the price goes a little higher than that.
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TimQ says:
A lot of people give him crap but I still think he’s a very capable d-man. If he goes Snow better get some value back
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Michael from T.O. says:
I like Marty, but with his history of injuries and the way some of the guys from the Bridge have played, I say trade him for the right price.
CB, with all these guys going, they seem to be giving themselves a lot of cap space next year to make a run at someone in free agency. Have any thoughts? -
MilburyRuinedMyLife says:
CB, what do you think his value is?
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Andre Legault says:
Can’t trade everyone… We must keep some assets. Even more the ones that have a very reasonnable cap hit.
On the other hand, if he’s not happy in gogo’s system, sure must listen to offers…
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Easyisle says:
Someone’s going to get a heck of a player – their fans will probably all say “WE GOT WHO???” but then learn to love the guy. His skate after being named 2nd Star that first time is an all-time great moment.
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Martinek is a great defensemen when he’s healthy. Problem is he’s made of glass. We all saw him take himself out against the boards the other night with no one touching him.
Other problem is hes underrated, which means we’ll probably get an average to below average player/prospect for him. But if we can grab more picks for him, i’d say go for it.
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NNNNNNOOOOOOOO.
That being said, unless Garth’s got a true to life GOOD DEAL, read: 1st Round Pick or a guy like Phil Kessell or a young player with upside like Luca Sbisa this should not get done.
I think it’s safe to say I’m a Marty fan. -
Kristie says:
No problems with letting Martinek go, should be a decent return, the guy is hurt far too often.
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Joey303 says:
I wouldnt lose sleep over losing him. If theres interest, trade him.
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JayK says:
His injuries are maddening. But he is signed at a reasonable amount through next season, so he’s not a big hit on the cap. Is the question mark that always surrounds drafing a second-rounder really worth giving up Martinek?
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EdTurner says:
It’s one thing to trade veterans at the trade deadline, but you can’t go into next season with nothing but rookies.
What “decent” veteran FA would come to this team, Tavares or no Tavares?
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Garth Snow’s hand should not be forced here. We are well set up heading into the draft.
Whatever Snow can get at this trade deadline is just icing on the cake.
Otherwise, if the offers are not enough Snow should feel content to stand pat.
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Scott W says:
I like Marty, but he struggles getting in position to avoid big hits. Add that to the fact that he gets injured very easily and he is not going to play 70+ games a year in this league. However, I agree that anything short of a second rounder or a solid prospect would not be worth it.
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isles72 says:
the guerin mystery will be over when the isles claim satan then send billy to pit for a 2nd rounder
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Jon Mac says:
(14) I could,’t agree more. He is a very solid defenseman when he is on the ice and his contract is not going to keep us from signing a big name free agent in the offseason. Unless we get a second round pick or a b level prospect, I keep him!
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Steve S says:
I think Derek is sniffing glue.
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UIF says:
Good d-man…hope he stays.
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303Joe says:
Bye bye Radek. Guys is OK when playing let’s not get crazy and call him Great but OK when playing. However you can count on him missing atleast 20 games a year due to injury.
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Mikey says:
I don’t really want Marty traded. He is a calming presence, and his d partners always look good playing with him. We can only trade him if we get another defenseman coming back in another deal. Who knows if we’ll be able to sign Gilroy/Komi or draft Hedman. Besides, I think Marty would be a great guy to have back there if we are going to develop some kid defensemen. CB – what do you think is Marty’s value? I don’t remember you doing a “true value” post on him.
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ISLESFAN999 says:
Any idea what we can expect for martinek?
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Jimmy Mac says:
C’mon… Marty is signed for 2 more years @ 1.5 million.
He is 32 years old.
That is a deal.
We need to keep him around. Where else are you going to find value like that.
What will get in return… a third rounder.
Unless he is packaged in another deal to bring in more value… then Marty should stay.
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My point, Steve S, is Marty’s value is way higher on our team than for what we can get for him. A second rounder for him is absolute GARBAGE. We’ll draft someone that will probably not pan out and never sniff the NHL.
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duff says:
Kessel for Martinek. Hilarious.
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jonsson3 says:
Call up Fritz to beat the s*#! out of Avery!!!!
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Bobby says:
Derek # 11….That was amusing…Phil Kessel for a solid NHL d-man who has spent the majority of his time in the trainers room. Perhaps we are also waiting for Ovechkin to wave his NTC to complete the Guerin trade.
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Duff, Again, I wasn’t saying that would be a deal, I just mentioned that as a way to show how valuable he is to our team.
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Matt says:
Hope he gets a good return he is an excellent under rated Dmen who when healthy kicks arse!
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Bob says:
To trade Martinek unless the Isles are getting a sure fire top 4 d-man or top 6 forward who is younger and healthier. To trade him for a pick does not make any sense considering his contract is very reasonable and his play as a top pair d-man has been consistently there when he is on the ice. His leadership & Streits are what we need going forward. There will always be injuries in hockey but talented depth is very hard to find.
He is part of the solution, not the problem.
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Pritchett says:
The problem with trading martinek is that all of a sudden people on this list will act as though he was the best defenseman in team history after he is gone. Campoli went from our 5th dman to next denis potvin, after his trade. People are going to talk about Martinek as though he is Chris Pronger if the isles trade him.
martinek is a decent 4th dman. Good defensively and decent offensively. The problem is that the guy misses 25 games a year with injuries which is only get worse as he gets older.
I like the guy and dont want him traded for nothing but if we can pick up a 2nd rounder or a decent prospect, we need to do it.
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Peter says:
I agree with most. Marty will not nearly get us back what he is worth and since he not an UFA this year why trade him? Obviously I would listen to deals but anything less then a 1st rounder and I’m not trading Marty (we won’t get a 1st rounder).
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Islander505 says:
No surprise here…as previously stated, only Bailey and KO are untouchable (and Streit, just because he’s a Snow “Pearl”..i.e. looks good on Snow’s GM resume).
EVERYONE ELSE is fair game…Sim simply wasn’t worth the effort of securing a 5th or 6th round draft pick in exchange. There are bigger fish to fry.
Martinek “might” get a 2nd rounder.
The question Snow has to answer…is Marti more valuable than a 3rd round pick?
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bossy4president says:
Hope they bubble wrap him real good when they ship him out.
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the key caveat here is ‘WHEN HEALTHY’. He’s the master of the injury bug. That’s why I won’t lament losing him, especially for a First Rounder.
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thepolishprince says:
Has Marty ever turned down being the recipient of a big hit in the corner?
I like him a lot and agree that he’s a steady influence on the blueline. However he is always hurt.
If the price is right move ‘em. If not, I don’t see any problem keeping him on the blueline even though he probably won’t play more than 40 games. -
Joe Muccia says:
Big mistake trading Marty…
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We also, all need to remember we going on a youth movement. Look at the age of the defenceman the Isles have under contract
Streit – 31 (keeper0
Sutton – 31
Witt – 34
Martinek -32
Meyer – 28
Gervais – 24
Hillen – 24This is an area we have to get younger as well.
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doc says:
Keep him. Good solid defencemen… good wheels – seems to fit Gordons’ system etc. etc. etc.
DOC
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Brian G says:
Derek – get a clue, martinek for Kessel, we are not playing Roto Hockey
If the Isles can get a decent prospect and a 2nd round pick , you have to make the deal in a heartbeat….this team needs to start over….Martinek will never bring us to the promise land.
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blitz says:
somewhere along the lines NYI fans think NYI players are all worth 1st rounders…
Probably 29 NHL teams disagree.
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Tony says:
I used to be one of his supporters, but he has noticeably been making mistakes lately. Buh bye Radek.
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(39) I have on numerous occasions watched him turn away from checks and hold up in the corner, giving up the puck to avoid being hit.
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I say trade martinek as he only plays half the season. He is getting older and I would trade him for a dmen whose 25 or so. Or I would trade Martinek and Weight for a low #1 pick.
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Radek’s time has come to an end here. Didi a great job for the team over the years….move him now while the interest is there.
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Coach B says:
Again the question is this. Is Martinek part of the rebuild? Probably not.
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Satan was put on waivers. Pitts is going to do something! Hope Garth isn’t sitting on his hands. Wish he wasn’t hanging with the Wanger in the suite last night and worked the phones instead. Going to be a real embarrasment if Guerin is in the line up on thurs. I’m sure he’ll be real happy with our wacko coaches comments in Newsday. Yeah, I know everyone Snow is smarter than me and has done nothing stupid so far!!! LOL!!
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Ryan says:
Unless Garth get’s blown away…KEEP HIM
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19 says:
Have to figure the reason for the long Guerin delay is to get adeqaute money back as if Guerin/Weight goes NYI will be under the salary floor and the receiving team is probably trying to fit Guerin under their cap.
Dump Marty soon. Good D man but Mr. Glass1 is hurt way too much. Now if we could only dump Mr. Glass2 (a certain fragile goalie)
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Wedregast says:
With keeping Witt, Streit, and Sutton we have some D vets for next season. Martinek, who i think is a good steady d man, is too fragile to stay. Ship him off.
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With us losing Billy, Weight, Silly, Comrie etc… that is alot of salary cap money.
I’m not sure if they lower cap limit for next year is around $40 million again, but if it is… somehow we need to spend somewhere around 22 million to get back to it.
You look at this year’s F/A pool… not alot of players to throw your money at.
We might want to keep guys light Marty around.
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Ron, Lindenhurst NY says:
Please trade Martinek. Though one of my favorite Isles players, can’t let go of the fact that he’s made out of glass. we can get a solid deal out of him (2nd rounder, top prospect, 2nd line d-man).
Make it happen, GM Snow!
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MikeF says:
I will not miss martinek, more and more he disapoints, phomenal skater, great puck handler, but has to be the worst guy in the NHL on a 2on1, and his play in our own end is going down hill. Loving Macdonnald and callahan
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Trade Martinek and mcammond to edmonton for brule and schremph.
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Darren says:
I like Martinek but he’s always hurt. Dump him while you still can get something for him!
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(50) Why would it be an embarrasment is Guerin is in the lineup on Thursday? What did the Islanders do wrong? Maybe Garth thought he had a deal in place, so he pulled him out of the lineup to be cautious. It sounds like the team(s) the Islanders were negotiating with had to move some players do to cap issues. You have to remember there are two sides to every trade, some times more. If Guerin is not dealt, he will come back and continue to play the way he has all year. Gordon and Guerin are both professionals and they would make it work.
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Willis says:
Best of luck to Radek if he’s traded. What a smooth skater and such a low maintenance guy (lol not talking injury-wise). Thanks for everything.
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CT Isles Fan says:
Satan on waivers per TSN
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I really hope guerin is traded at this point. Maybe he will accept a trade anywhere. Its prob hard to only have leverage from a few teams..
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Michael from T.O. – see, I disagree there. Having a steadier D allows you to take some more risks with younger, unproven forwards. Also, D takes longer to develop, so you’re not going to have a blue line with six guys under 25. Just doesn’t normally happen. Witt, Marty, and Streit are good back there to pair with three younger, developing D. When the three young guys are ready, they’ll be the vets and can work with three more young guys, maybe some from the ’08 draft class. Just my opinion, but we seem to have a habit of developing D, living with them through the painful, mistake-ridden years, and then shipping them off to help other teams when they’re in or entering their prime. No, Marty’s not great, but he’s very steady…I’ll take him over a 19th second round pick.
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Bryan says:
I dont want to trade Martinek without actual value coming back. To me a 2nd round pick does not cut it. Trading a solid top 3 dman for someone who may or may not make the NHL and if they do are at least 3 years away doesnt seem worth it.
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Word says:
I imagine he might bring a similar return as havelid…
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Maybe snow can trade martinek to philly for upshall? Thats an even salary swap. I would be happy with a move like that…
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I think it could have been handled differently. My opinion thats all. The guy sat out yesterdays game. He is our captain and to me it looks a little funny having the guy in limbo while his value decreases. To me it would have to be a rock solid deal to take the actions that we did. Guerin has voiced his displeasure with the situation already. Everyone alway seems to be worried about us having mud on our face and honestly this is one of those situations. I know deals fall through but we usually find out down the road not while they are happening. The guy is obviously not resigning with us after Gordo’s comments which he is already back peddling with(whats new there, brings back the never pulling his goalie comments). I hope he goes and we can get back something before we get nothing at all!!!
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Strummer's Army says:
Please I beg you trade Martinek!
Curious about the timing of putting Sim on waivers. Was it because Snow didn’t think anyone would give up an asset for him but might now take the salary off his hands?
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Havelid is a ufa. Martinek is not so he might be worth a little more.
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I echo the words of UIF (64)… I’ll take him over a 19th second round pick. And I would.
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Dont trade Martinek for anything less than a late 1st rd pick..He is more valuable than Campoli, & they got that for him..
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UIF, my point is realy stating that most of our defence is over 30. the Isles need to bring in at least one young defenceman to learn from these vets, just like they did with Weight.
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Rangers suck says:
See ya Radek, you are a nice D when healthy, but that isn’t often. If Snow can get a high pick ( 1st 2nd rnd ) for him go for it.
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Why does everyone think every Islander trade is bringing back a pick? Nowhere is it a given that a pick is coming back for someone. Maybe a team interested in MArty, wants his experience in exchange for a salary or a younger D man. Picks schmicks
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It’s funny how far the pendulum swings on a guy like Marty. I’ve made my feelings known and I know Strummer’s feelings about him are the exact opposite of mine. The question is if other GM’s have this same feeling. If so we can be getting either a 3rd rounder + a career ECHLer or a legit prospect/dare I say a 1st rounder. In any event, if he is traded, we’ll see how much he was valued and how much he can help his new team and his return help ours.
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Matt.
Consider the premise that a “Geurin deal” is already in place, and just awaiting THE OTHER TEAM to clean up some technicalities.
Maybe, JUST MAYBE, it’s a helluva deal for the Isles.
Now…what would be more “embarassing” and to whom?
Guerin playing last night and getting hurt and killing the deal?
Or the other team backing out cuz they couldn’t clean up their end of the deal, and Guerin back in the lineup Thursday?THINK PEOPLE.
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Mike from Oceanside says:
We have no use for a 32-year old Dman…It was nice knowin’ ya, Radek.
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CB – If you had to guess how many islanders will be traded by tomorrow. I know you did the list of the 5 most tradable. Should we expect guerin, weight and martinek to be traded? or is 3 player possibly too much. Or should we expect hilbert, mcammond, jackman or lesser players to be traded. Any chance we have 5 or 6 trades?
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MR4742 says:
Yeah, the new fans will love him until he gets hurt and misses another quarter of an NHL season. The guy is fragile and we need to start getting players who can stay healthy. Enough with the players made of glass. I like Marty but we can’t rely on him for the future. He was hurt a lot in his younger days so how is that going to play out as he ages? Trade any vet you can at this point, the more picks the better.
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Akeem says:
Mike,
We have NO USE for a 32 year old Dman? 32 years old is not that old in hockey age. It’s not young, mind you, but Martinek’s still got some good years left. If he’s traded, it won’t be because of his age. -
505: Well said regarding the Guerin deal/no deal. The Islanders have been completely professional in this matter… doing the right thing.
With these waiver moves and possible trades I think it also is an indication that the organisation is happy with the development of a few of the Bridgeport guys.
I know it’s early… but Callahan, A. MacDonald, Hillen, Joenssu (I know it’s one game), Trevor Smith etc… have all looked “good” if not better than good so far.
DOC
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John says:
Mike from O…. with that thought process… we should never attempt to sign any Scott Niedermeyer types in the future if everything has to be age related. No offense but good experienced D-Men are valuable. Marty is valuable and should fit into the longe range plans of the team.
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Terry says:
The Islanders went with Callahan, Hillen, Mac Donald, Gervais, all of whom are under 26. They need to get better on D, not younger.
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I’d like to think 32 isn’t old in any walk of life.
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Islander505 I appreciate you telling me to think. I understand your point and agree to an extent. My point being, having Gordo publicly say what he said in Newsday the other day is a little moronic. If this trade doesn’t exist anymore that just destroyed his value because every team will be aware of the animosity. Gordon saying me and Bill are buddies now will change nothing. Believe me I’m with you on the injury thing, no doubt about it but outside of that it was handled poorly. Who knows, this trade may happen today or tommorow. Or maybe not at all, if you can tell me with a straight face that there isn’t going to be issues with our team after that I believe you are the one who needs to start thinking.
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JPinVA says:
What are you trying to prove by trading a quality NHL defenseman for a second round pick. Here’s what you get for your 50 or so 20+ minutes per game.
Trivino, three years away… still a question mark.
Joensuu, nice prospect, but by most observations it will have taken him 5 years to get to is second line upside. He is three years in and has 1 game, and 1 goal under his belt.
Kohn, four years in, no NHL games, nobody has said anything about him breaking the top four on the NHL squad.
Blake Comeau, five years in, respectable 2nd/3rd line forward.
let’s not even talk about the three 2003 second round draft picks. that crowd has one kid with third line upside who hasn’t been able to crack a last place lineup.
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ars9x says:
Marty is not underrated,he’s just half man half glass! I think he is awesome when he is healthy but that is a rarity most seasons!
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I would say never trade martinek if he played 70 games a year. He can barley play 50. He is always hurt and if snow can get a decent deal for him you have to take it. If martinek was 26 I would say keep him. But he is older and always getting hurt.
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It’s funny how people in the Tavarses/Hedman blog say to take Hedman because you build from the goalie out. But they want to trade Marty for a 3rd round pick…lol.
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Ed J says:
Radak is soild….
I say keep him
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Spartiarti - RVC says:
im a very big martinek fan but if you can get something good for him like another 2nd round pick i think you trade him. Or trade him for a good defensive prospect.
He no question is on of the most underrated dman in they NHL. He plays a great game all around. I wish we could get Sbisa for him. No way Philly giving up that kid.
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beatlebailey says:
we should keep martinek..he is a solid 4 defensemen. i understand trading campoli but do not let marty go for a second rounder..
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TNH says:
@MikeF
You say: “but has to be the worst guy in the NHL on a 2on1…”
Are you crazy? The guy is great when it comes to 2 on 1s. He is a very smart player and is positionally sound. Martinek is an Islander in every sense of the word–the guy doesn’t complain, plays his hardest, and does whatever he can to ensure an Islanders’ victory. I can see by the look of many of these posts that the guy is still very under appreciated, and that is sad.
When you look to trade a player, you always have to ask yourself, is the trade worth it? Marinek has 2 more years left and only makes 1.5 million per year. Where else do you see that kind of value for a defensemen like Martinek? You don’t make a trade just because a trade is available; garnering a slew of 2nd round picks guarantees nothing. Sure, you might be able to trade a couple of those picks for a 1st rounder, but nothing is guaranteed. And looking at Garth’s draft history you don’t know what will happen. Unless you get a 1st round pick, or a very solid prospect, you don’t trade Marinek. Sometimes the best trade is the one that is never made. Sometimes you should keep some players even though they don’t completely match this “youth movement.” Martinek is not a Yashin, York, or Peca. He is neither overpaid, terrible, or a divider. He plays the game and plays it for a reasonable price. You look to keep players like him.
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Larry says:
I like radek a lot, i think he has been one of our best defensemen when on the ice for the past few seasons. but i think they should take what they can get for him for this reason…
under contract for next season
streit, witt, sutton, meyer, gervais, mcdonald. hillen is rfa. thats 7 defensemen. if we by chance draft hedman thats 8. is we take Free agent runs at both Gilroy and Komi, thats 10.make some room garth, sell high!
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If he is desired and at a bargain rate, he should fetch a nice return. I’m suspicious anyone would bet a nice return on his health, though … which makes me worry about what might be offered.
A solid, below-market-pay, two-way D-man — injuries or no — should not be dumped for just a pick. -
Post #41. Maybe the Isles take a look and pick up Reitz NYR or Brendan Bell Ottawa for a little bigger younger d man. Yeah they are only #6 d men but would give us some youth and size on a small defense.
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The Isles need to STOP winning or they will screw up getting Tavares. I will say this, they are playing a lot better lately.
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I have to agree with some of you guy on keeping Martinek.
Lets not forget, with addition of good free agents, young core, Tavares and a healty DP, isles will no way be anywhere near 30th next year.
Isles have to play Danis vs Rangers than serious cut his playing time.
We need to play McDonald the rest of the way if we going to finish 30th. Danis is playing great and getting only better.I think Danis and Jackman should be top of list of RFA to resign. McDonald can take a walk. Look at the difference> Danis lets in 2 goals at best while Mcdonald lets in at least 4 per game. That the difference btween a win or a loss.
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Pat says:
My initial reaction is to keep Marty.
My other reaction is to see what the market wants for him. I would not want to trade both Witt and Martinek. Also, need to know what the price tag for Marty is.
If we can use him in a package to obtain a first round pick ( in the middle part of the round or higher – not a 27th pick) – then I am listening. As a one for one trade- don’t think he is worth a first rounder – but I am just trying to provide guidance as to where my head is at here – not a specific trade value…..
I am for accumulating picks – especially first round picks – this year. Don’t feel a need to move Marty – but if a team needs to shore up its defense to make a Cup run this year wants to overpay – we can listen can’t we?
Hey Garth – start drinking lots of coffee right about now……..and GOOD LUCK !!!!
This next 24 hours + the work he does in June (entry draft) and July 1 ( UFA time) – will impact us greatly.
Pat
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Refhater99 says:
I love the internet. People come on and post stuff without thinking and it shows just how silly 85% of Americans can be. Maybe we can set an age cap on the team. No player who is older than 22 please.
Martinek has been in the NHL for seven seasons including this one. Yes he’s had his share of injuries but not due to poor conditioning and being out of shape. He had his knee taken out in a Ranger game 23 games into his first NHL season. One year he broke his leg going for a puck behind the net and taking a big hit. Same with the shoulder injury this season. His injuries are bad luck injuries sustained by playing the game hard and not being a wuss.
Just because teams want someone doesn’t mean you trade him. The fact that he is a hot commodity is a perfect reason to keep him. Who is our veteran blue line presence who can teach the younger players? Streit? One guy? Why trade Martinek for a younger version of Martinek? Unless the Isles get a defenseman of equal or better caliber you keep him. Even then I would not consider trading him. His injuries are pure bad luck. He doesn’t have a chronic groin problem. He doesn’t have cranky knees or bad hips. He isn’t out of shape. He’s an 8th round pick who, like Campoli, is playing well above his draft status.
Obviously because its trade deadline teams in contention are going to shop around to make their team better. Obviously the Islanders are looked at as sellers because the league gives them less than no respect. So when trade rumors circle Islander fans get ancy and yell “Yeah trade him, trade him!” I say keep him, keep him.
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nystrom23 says:
If Martinek and Witt are traded we need to do some serious d-man drafting this year.
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the bomber says:
if we had sat guerin in a playoff race and lost two games AND didnt get a trade done, THAT would be an embarrassment. However, we are in last place, and WE WON both games. The only person this is embarrassing to is Bill Guerin cause nobody will give up a 2nd round pick for the guy. Get him back in the lineup fast before we lose out on the #1 pick…
we cant get 2nd rounders yet for Witt and Guerin and Weight, so please dont trade Martinek for a 4th rounder….
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DanNOLA says:
Martinek will not garner a first round pick when he is such an injury liability. He will definately be valuable to a team that needs a solid depth D-man, but by himself he is not worth a first when there is a better than average chance that he will be hurt by playoff time. If he is included as a sweetener, though, he may help bring a much better return package.
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The only reason not to trade Martinek is the team will be a lot better without him and it might mess up the Tavares/Hedman first overall pick.
I like these moves if they are made.
Isles better have some toughness in the line up when they play the Rangers nwo that Avery is back and Torts is coaching.
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Joe says:
They could get a first rounder for Martinek, go for it.
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One other thing. Accumulating draft picks is fine and dandy except those picks won’t mature for a number of seasons. We’re supposed to be rebuilding a team, not starting from scratch. Considering nobody of decent value wants to sign here we should keep the talent we’ve invested time and money in. Nobody is going to overpay for Radek Martinek so to simply trade him for a pick/prospect and a player of similar ilk is stupid IMO.
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Amen Strummer, we need toughness Thursday.
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Dadi says:
Radek is a keeper
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Isles defense Next year
Streit – Sutton
Grevais – Komiserek
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Don't Mind the Haters says:
If we trade Martinek away, we need a player in return. We don’t need another low first round pick.
I can tolerate coming in last in order to get Tavares/Hedman – with the excuse that we lost DP for the year.
But I’m not sure if I can take another last place finish simply because we have a bunch of newbies on our team (for the sake of having newbies).
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If the Isles get a package of a Player & prospect or Prospect & picks for him you have to pull the trigger….not just for a 2nd round pick
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JT says:
spartiari (110), dont rule out Gilroy….
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Refhater99… amen. I couldn’t agree more.
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post number 101
I love the internet, people pontificate about how 85 pecent of people know nothing when they do. Martinek should be moved no question. Its not bad luck that he is injured all the time. Hes a decent d guy but can not play a full season with out missing at least a quarter of his games. If someone gives us something decent for him you take it. We are rebuilding and we do not need him to teach the youngsters.
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Un Beaver says:
Martinek is an underpaid, excellent dman and worth holding onto. I think he gets better each year. Dude should really hit the weights, granted, but unless something real good comes along, keep him.
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cmimbri says:
he is out more then he plays if you package him and that bum 3 goal getter tambi a 2nd rounder is a good return
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I would be totally fine with Martinek, aside from Streit he is most complete dman on the isles. no question.
And he makes 1.5MM a year. you cant find a better dman in NHL for that dollar amount.
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he is over paid considering he never plays …. the guy misses atleast 25 games a season
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Hey guys do you think Tambi scored b/c Jesse Jonuseau Match his full yr goal production in one game?
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yes
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mikey cavs says:
I say sell him while he’s hot; He’s not a crease-clearer, doesn’t bring team toughness and gets hurt quite often; I loved him when he first walked on but I’ve seen enough, I’d rather give a shot to a Macdonald or a Callahan.
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Isles4cups says:
I agree with Jimmy Mac (26). He’s got 2 years left on a reasonable contract and he is an underrated defenseman in my opinion.
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Jimmy Sparx says:
Refhater99 is totally on point with his views. This team does not need to have 20 picks in next years draft, unless 1/2 are in the 1st rd.
Hey Refhater99, your name is perfect for this guy who used to sit in sec 309. This guy was nuts…..lol. Always yelling of the refs….lol.
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coolhndluke says:
Refhater, Martys’ injuries are not “bad luck” injuries at all. 7 years in the league and he still stands there and takes the hit, his mobility is for crap. Being as fragile as he is one would think he wouldn’t open himself up to those big hits so frequently. He may play the position smartly but he does not know when to avoid contact. The result is going to be an ongoing trip to the IR, missing 20 games a season. Move him if you can.
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Radek Martinek is the most overrated Islander. There are numerous reasons to trade him and the only valid reason to keep him is his contract is a reasonable rate for 2 more years. Guys if your auto loan on a Pinto is at a reasonable rate your still driving a pinto. Let’s at least replace him with a nice mid-sized SUV. What I am saying is ya his contract if fair to the Isles but he stinks and is way injury prone. Not worth his reasonable contract.
Also, I am wondering should the Isles keep Witt does that mean they then cannot afford Komisarik? Some of you want to keep Witt, Martinek and everyone else (I’d Keep Witt under the right circumstances if there is not blow out trade) but if you want to keep all these guys and all their contracts then you can forget them adding any meaningful pieces while they are still here. So do you want a guy like Martinek who hasn’t helped the Isles win anything or do you want a guy like Komisarik?
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Komi>Martinek, buh bye Radek! I like the guy but hes just so fragile, Id rather have a tough customer like Komisarek. We could get something good for him too.
I hate rumors, Garth needs to pull the trigger on something.
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BrassBonanza says:
Hey CB,
Thanks for all your hard work these past two days. Like many loyal readers of your blog, I find myself hitting the refresh button every 30 min or so.
What are the chances that the Isle’s dont make any moves in the next 20 hr’s or so? And maybe more importantly what happens if they cant work out a deal for the captain, what happens next with #13??
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Joe what leads you to believe the Isles have a shot with Komi?
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They probably dont, just my preference of d-men.
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Strummer, Keeping Martinek should have absolutely no influence on Signing Komo.
To say he’s overrated is just wrong. People in the comments that actually like him are trading him for a 2nd round pick. Maybe I’m overrating him, maybe. But to say that the general consensus is that he’s overrated doesn’t make sense.
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Yeah I would like to see him in an Islanders jersey as well.
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Geez I just wanna see a trade already…anythinggggggg… all this talk gets me nervious
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129 Jimmy Sparx Post 129 –
what makes us believe is the Gainey wasted too much money signing guys like Hamlrik to 5.5MM contracts. So now that he overpaid he feels he can offer some of ht other players less and they would be good with it. So when it was time for Streit to resign, he lowballed him. So Komi will be in demand. I dont think he has the room to money to match some fot he offers he will be getting.
I think an offer for Komi may entice him to come play on LI. He knows his Role would be greatly increase. did anyone also he has a 99mph slapshot too? have you ever seen him use it in a Habs Uniform?
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frank nyc says:
I just hope the isles pull the trigger on atleast one more trade. Preferably two. Obviously the whole guerin thing went down the drain, but i still hope they can move him. Just hoping something gets done.
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SS says:
Radek for a blocked B-grade prospect makes sense — someone along the lines of a Comeau type who can’t crack the big league team in a deeper system.
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Derek a team can have only so many d-men on one way contracts. Teams are also gonna be very frugal because of CBA uncertainty. If that means replace a terrible player like Martinek with a less expensive guy like Hillen etc to get a top level FA.
It doesn’t matter that some people ont his blog are trading him for a 2nd round pick. I have been a scout (not for hockey) and rep and I actually watch how the guys play and Marty stinks. Ask Logan what he thinks of him. This team has never won anything with Martinek and some of these others. So I am hoping people here won’t be upset if the Isles don’t get a 2nd round pick for him. If the Isles do I will jump for joy but if the Isles get much less and still trade him I will still jump for joy.
Have a good day.
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A couple things I want to see happen by the deadline Guerin and Weight packaged together(likely to Pittsburgh, Washington, or Montreal) for a 2nd round pick and a conditional pick. Also, Martinek should be traded for at least a 2nd. As much as I like Witt, I still think he could bring in a very good pick or prospect that can be used to speed up the rebuild.
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yeah guys enough with the Martinek.
if Martinek doesnt equal a 2nd round pick or top defensive prospect, its NO DEAL.he will be great asset to isles next season. If isles play like they playing lately next season and dont get the injury bug, I expect them to be right in playoff mix.
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There is too much Komi nonsense here. The guy isn’t going to sign with the Isles because he will demand top dollar and the Isles are not going to pay him upwards of 6 mill a season. And I’m not sure why everyone is penciling Gilroy in as some sure fire hall of famer that the Isles need to sign pronto… he’s 25, and undrafted for a reason. A late bloomer maybe… but to jettison half the d corps for talent that needs seasoning will = at least 2 more years of suffering if not more.
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Spartiari: There’s no way trading Martinek results in acquiring a “top” defensive prospect.
Consider that the Devils just acquired Nic Havelid (and there may not be a more similar player to Martinek in the NHL than Havelid) in exchange for a defensive prospect that probably didn’t rank anywhere near their top 10 prospect list on anyone’s list.
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Chris M says:
China doll for a 2nd round pick. Get’r done Snowy.
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For everyone complaining about Martinek and want Komisared next year… umm… didn’t Komisarek miss about 20 games this year due to a separated shoulder… and a about 7 or 8 games last year due to an injury?
Injuries happen in hockey no doubt. Some players a little more than others. Maybe he has all the injuries out of the way now. We don’t own crystal balls.
Maybe Komisarek will continue to become an injury prone player. We don’t know.
Granted… Komisarek is welcome on my team anyday at the right price.
But, trading Martinek for “future” considerations is penny wise and pound foolish.
DOC
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mike says:
You have got to keep Martinek unless you get a first round pick from a non-playoff team, preferably a lottery team. The health issues for Martinek are simply dumb luck. He never has had the same injury twice. He got clipped in the shoulder early this season…could happen to anyone. He broke his ankle last season on an awkward fall after a hit in Montreal…could happen to anyone. It’s not like DP’s knees here.
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Lee says:
he’s always hurt. if we were contending i’d say keep him….but he’s 32, and oft injured. so thanks for everything, but I’ll see you later Radek
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Any GM who would trade a lottery pick for Radek Martinek would be fired on the spot.
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isles316 says:
This is going to be an interesting 24 hours I have a feeling all over the league.
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According to TSN: Sharks Roenick & GRier are out 4 to 6 weeks, they are looking for depth players….How about McAmmond for a 5th round pick…sounds about right
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NYLES says:
Snow is an embarrassment!!!!
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Brett says:
This place is better than Comedy Central sometimes. Martinek for a first round lottery pick. That’s gold. John #140 thank for your reality check but you too will soon realize that Komi will be an Islander for 2.5 mil/yr and Gilroy will sign quickly becoming the next Potvin.
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mike (144)- Martinek could be the most injury prone player in the NHL. I would take a 2nd rounder for him. Look at these stats of his games played since 2003-2004:
03-04: 47 games played
05-06: 74 games (his best ever)
06-07: 43 games played
07-08: 69 games played
08-09: 32 games played…Assuming he stays healthy the rest of this season he will play in 51 games this season. He averages playing 57 games per season. -
Strummie,
I respect your opinion. I don’t think he’s anywhere near as bad as you make him out to be, but that’s my opinion. A second rounder is a waste. The only legit reason that you have is to free up some space on d for another player. I think Larry (#95) made a great point with it. Either way, I love reading your angle, it’s always the exact opposite of mine.
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rb says:
has Garth listed anybody on Ebay yet? no reserve and free shipping!
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ss146… you mean any gm that doesnt trade marti should be fired….you are overating the piece of glass
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tick … tick … tick – We’re inside 24 hours and still nothing. I’ll be pissed if Snow doesn’t move at least 2 of the people being discussed (Witt, Guerin, Weight, Martinek). You know the other GMs are waiting him out at this point hoping that the 2nd rounder he’s been asking for slips to a 3rd rounder
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153 i love that post. Thats prob the funniest one Ive seen. Seems about accurate.
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A second round pick for a guy who plays 40 games a season sounds about right. Look, I like him — when he’s healthy. Unfortunately, he’s healthy about as often as this team wins playoff rounds.
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Does anyone ever look up stats before they post? He has played 7 seasons in the NHL. No he does not have a complete season under his belt yet but he has played way more than 40 games a season for all but three of them. Two of those seasons were injuries he had no chance of preventing. He had his knee taken out cheaply in a Ranger game his first season. Two seasons ago he broke his leg in a freak play chasing down a puck to beat the opponent who was trying to stop an icing. I can’t seem to locate a story on how he was injured that third time. His other four season he played in 70 games on average. Missing 12 games a season is nothing to be laughing at. I’d say the majority of players in the NHL miss an average of 12 games a season, either all at once or over the course of 82 games. In 2006 he missed half the season but posted a career high in points and plus/minus. For the price he gets you don’t trade him, you re-sign him again. If he wants to leave let him go on his terms. He was an 8th round pick. The Isles will not get a substantial return on him.
I actually hope the Islanders hold on to Martinek. I know he has had injury issues, but Radek is a steady force on our blue line. I also think he is a leader in the dressing room. I hope the price for Radek is high! I would say a second round pick.