LIGHTNING 5 ISLANDERS 2: 6 regulation Ls in a Row
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Thank you, Islanders radio voice Chris King. As always, thanks to the fans for your participation in the Comments space…CB
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Good evening, Islanders Country. Thanks for joining in. I’m very happy that longtime Islanders radio Chris King will make a few cameos during the game tonight.
It’s the return of Jeff Tambellini as the Islanders attempt to snap a five-game losing streak. I’ll be around all night…CB
Glad your doing this, I am on the LIRR and can’t think of a better way to follw the action.
Hey, Chris-
I just wanted to share with you a nice “small world” story:
I’m a sophomore at Penn State. My RA last year was from Pittsburgh, and his brother graduated from high school with your former partner, Steve Mears, though he wasn’t known by that name back in his days in Pittsbugh. Back then, he was Steve Miersebeggi, but you already know that.
Hey Chris - Psyched for another chat. Also for when he gets here, sorry Chris King did not get the call for Sunday’s game when Howie was out again.
The game hasn’t started yet and Doug Weight may already have the line of the night. During the “Ten Question Challenge” on the MSG pre-game show, he says, “Why do you guys want to make us look stupid”? CB
Good for Weight.
Sure need a win tonite - get 2
Chris King won’t be around until later, when he gets a break from radio duties. To avoid confusion between the Chrises, we will call him “Kinger” for the remainder of the night…CB
CB I just came on here to say the exact same thing! Great quote from Dougie. It’s funny because it’s so true. Every one of these “contests” I am amazed how little these guys know even about their own sport!
The contests always crack me up
Wow, Shremp is not intelligent at all. Garth should waive him for this!
What he do???
Anyone the kovalchuk blog….deal going down tonight to an east team…not bruins and not rags
As you know, I usually like to keep the talk all Islanders here, but since one of the best players in the game might be traded in the next few hours, Ilya Kovalchuk chat is fair game. New Jersey Devils could be the team…CB
Devils wow!
Hi everybody - special thanks to CB for letting me join you all tonight as my duties permit - if you missed the MSG 10 question challenge in the TV pre-game show, we run it in the intermissions on the radio side tonight. I think the first goal is BIG tonight - Nitty has been hot for the Bolts and the Isles opponent has scored first in the last 7 straight games…
Ilya to the devs its not suprising at all….lou always has something up his sleeve…cb, u think brian burke maybe pulled another fast one and landed him too?
And we’re absolutely certain it will not be our Isles??
The Devils? Damn, Lou did it again, if true. Wish he was running the Isles the last 18 years, no offense to Garth
#16 - Welcome Chris King! (see above). Or Kinger, as we shall call him to avoid confusion!. Thanks for joining in, Kinger…CB
Long live the Kinger!
Lets Go Islanders!!!
Can We Talk About Nate Thompson Tonight?!?
I hope Tamby doesn’t drop a water bottle or else he may get benched again.
espn reports it is the devils
i wonder what the devils gave up?
Oduya
How about a little Let’s Go Islanders tonite…. Isles 4-3.. Isles blow 3-1 lead… win it with a late goal… Tavares with a pair including the PP GW with 6 minutes left.
PS Nate Thompson going to be throwing bodies tonight…
Kinger I miss hearing your voice on the radio. I remember back in the good old days when it was you and Wideman. You’re the best!
Wow Kinger…you broadcast just as good on Blog as you do on the air! Welcome to IPB….The greatest site on the Net!
devils cup favorites now?
WE HAVE TO WIN
Isles PP: Doug Weight (no goals) at the point. Matt Mouslson (leading goal scorer) on the bench. HELP!!!
Must keep momentum after power play.
Good to see Hunter still on the PP…
wow devils actually went out and got scoring. they may actually be the team to beat now
yeah
kinger we miss you on the radio
yyikes
Welcome Kinger! Much love for all of your work with the Islanders over the years.
Kinger…CB…fellow Isles fans…
Is it time to try Gervais at wing?
Thanks for all the kind words everyone - I really appreciate it!
You all know I love my line and D combos - here are the latest for the Isles tonight:
26-13-21
20-91-57
15-51-7
16-93-10
2-8
25-47
56-44
Kovy and Parise together?
Who did the Devils lose?
WoW!! Atlanta’s in the thick of it … and they give up their best players ever?
I wonder how this trade will affect Snow’s decisions. Not that the Isles are competing for a spot against the Devs.
Ilya Kovalchuk to the Devils will be a scary thought. I bet it’ll only be a rental though, so no real threat to the Isles long term… I hope.
wait did Howie just say they wish the best to Witt as his NHL career is over?
Really hope the devils don’t sign Kovi long term. Just what we need. Another All STAR in the division.
(44) Sean: No, he just wished him the best.
However, if the NYI are serious about not putting him through re-entry waivers, he may in the minors a while…CB
the puck bounces around in TB just like it does at home.
Boy does JT go down a lot. I see him on the ice two times every shift
I can’t see Lou giving anyone 10 mil+ a season…and I really don’t think we should either if Kovalchuk becomes a UFA.
Is it me or does it seem like the Isles have more trouble getting passes thru and finding open ice than most teams?
Good to see Tamby playing with Frans & Hunts tonight - he has told me many times he considers Frans the best center he has ever played with - that should give him a nice comfort level in his first game back. And Trent can create some space for Tamby to work in with his physical game.
He is only 27. I would sign him as a free agent. Hes going to Kings in the summer.
I’m sure the Devils will try to get Kovalchuk long-term. The owner is serious about adding spark to the team and selling more tickets. No doubt Vanderbeek was behind this deal as much as Lamoriello. They’re undergoing some changes in New Jersey.
Also, Kovalchuk has a significant other and child in New York…CB
What could Snow get for Sutton if the Isles are out of it? He has played well this year and has stayed relativley healthy.
The devils gave up alotttt based upon what CB just said
CB, you gotta think with the devils giving up that much, they have real aspirations about signing him long term. I mean they’re already good, they wouldn’t give up that much for a rental would they?
wow, what a move by tavs. so not fair that he didnt tuck it under the crossbar
When are the Isles going to have one go IN off the x-bar or post? The have been snake-bit off the iron and OUT so much lately.
Tavares + “man muscles” = superstar
Kohn is gonna get it from Downie later on but nice physical play from Kohn…
Also, Kovalchuk has a significant other and child in New York…CB
DING DING DING!!!!!!
John Tavares looks like he’s having his best game in a while. Maybe he’s coming back around.
how is that interference? downie was trying to play the puck and was 2 inches from touching it?terrible.
CB or Kinger, do either of you guys think that the Isles could pull off a trade with Chicago for either Byfuglien or Sharp?
I feel like we will struggle to make it to the cap floor again LOL
GOAL - Stamkos, 1-0 TBL
Game over hahaha jk
keep sutton,get him to sign an extension.what would hunter fetch?
Why would Tampa have the best scorer out on the PP? Maybe they should speak to Gordo. Oh wait, they want to score.
Our PK is horrendous. That MUST be addressed in the offseason. I feel like we get scored on every single time we are short handed.
Man stamkos is good…melrose is an idiot.
pinch me we scored!
GOAL - Islanders, 1-1
good quick comeback goal… the fans needed that to stay tuned and the players needed it to stay focused
20 goal score???? on the islanders???
such a horrid goal but i’ll take it… Mattttty ICEEEEE
MATTY ICE! lucky goal, but I’ll take it
Time for Gordo to cut down on Moulson’s TOI.
Hockey gods, for Isles 900 posts
Yeah … I don’t see Lou sending away all that for a rental … unless … he thinks this season is the last really good shot he thinks his team has a legitimate shot at the cup. The Devils are looking at a lot of changes the next few years. Brody isn’t going to around much longer (at least at the elite level) … and without him at that level … the Devs are mere mortals.
isles make you sweat and suffer tiil the end….
Is it possible for someone to track how many pp goals against we allow when park is on the ice compared to nielson and ko? This is getting ridiculous. The guy just has no puck sense. We should have waived him a month ago
Matt Moulson the pinball wizard! We all know he planned that shot!
Where would the Isles be this season without that hidden gem pick up of Matty Moulson. Thanks scouting staff and Garth.
Gervais has actually looked competent in the offensive zone in the first period!
Just read that the Devils got Kovalchuk…
Isles get a GOOD bounce when Moulson’s shot goes in off the skate of Meszaros - is this a sign that the worm is about to turn?
Defense, looks very very weak
Hey Chris,
Moulson is technically not an NHL rookie, but where would he be ranked in the Calder race if he was eligible?
do you notice how many times KO gets his stick knocked out of his hands
Which has the higher attendance: Islanders at Tampa or Tampa at NY Islanders?
now we score and dominate them lets go isles
Turns out the prospect is not Palmieri but - get this - suspended Patrice Cormier…CB
Devil fans can enjoy the 50 goal scorer but no team rocks draft partys like Charles wangs islanders!!!
Devils get kovi we will build through the draft and free agents get used to it
Bengfords, Odyua, Cormier, ist round pick
CB
Who would have been part of an Islanders package that would be comprabale to the one the Devils gave up?
The lightning are crashing the net aggressively and fearlessly because they know there is no physical presence to deal with. Shremp looks good tonight, he gives 100%. I wish Kyle would shoot more instead of looking for the “sportscenter” pass.
If the Devils sign Kovie, I’d call it a steal.
sorry folks but the islanders didn’t even have anything close to what atlanta wanted. that and charles wang will not spend the money kovalchuk will want come july 1st. the islanders are in a full rebuild and will not look at making deals like this for at least four or five years.
My guess if the Isles would have traded something comparable…
Baily, Sutton, DeHaan, 1st rd pick
sound about right?
Hi Kinger.
three quick observations.
1. That’s two body checks in two games and the Isles were penalized for both… and both were pretty weak calls.
2. The Stamkos goal should serve as a bit of a lesson for our 91 and PP “SPACING”.
3. When was the last Islander goal that went in off an Islander stick?
Good deal for the devils,IMO.
Actually Giaco, I think your package is better. The Isles pick is higher, DeHaan is a better prospect than Cormier, and personally I’d rather have Bailey and Sutton over Bergfors and Oduya.
I thought I saw DP behind the glass by the Islander entrance. I know the visiting goalie at NVMC suffers the same fate. Is this a home-ice advantage thing or is there really no room to expand the bench?
Sutton would not be wanted by Atlanta. Not someone who’s going to be UFA in July…CB
I wish the Isles cold make one of these lopsided “insider club” deals that some GM’s apparently have access to? Do you need a membership card or something?
How on earth could the Islanders have gotten Kovalchuck?
He turned down Atlanta’s offer of $101 million over 12 years. We all know that Isles owner, LI real estate tyrant Charles Wang, would not have gone for an amount close to that.
109, who would go for $101 over 12, thats rediculous for someone whos name isn’t Ovechkin or Crosby.
whops I ment 108
Hey Kinger,
I just wanted to let you know that I loved your work calling the games. When I was in college in Philadelphia (98-02), yours and John Wideman’s voices were all I heard during Islanders games. I would listen to every game on the computer. I sure hope you get to call some more games in the future.
Why would Ricky not start this game? This flip-flopping of the netminders just makes no sense to me.
Well, that was what THN reported. This is from their site: ” Kovalchuk has been at the center of rumor reports all season and Atlanta GM Don Waddell announced today Kovalchuk had turned down a 12-year, $101 million offer from the club and the team couldn’t offer more.”
I think its hilarious that Lou came out saying that Cormier’s elbow didn’t deserve a season’s suspension and then deals him the second he gets the chance. Smart of him not to keep a violent kid like that in the prospect pool.
Devils won deal all mediocre players and a late pick waddell forced to make deal
Man, the Isles dont hit or play physical at all.
Good to hear Al Arbour is in the house tonight. Of all the great numbers Radar has compiled as coach of the Isles, this stat is my favorite one that I happened to dig up preparing for his 1500th game. The Islanders have won 29 playoff series in franchise history - Al was behind the bench for 28 of those. ALL other Islander coaches combined have 1 playoff series win. Let’s see who’ll be first to name the ONLY playoff series Arbour didn’t win - hint - it’s a very famous one…
The flip-flop is that the Islanders are going with a 1A-1B system unless the one goalie plays himself out.
105, I noticed that myself what is up with that?
that they controlled the puck like that for so long and did not score pretty much tells you where this team is at.
come on score so tampa fans can all just deflate and boo and cry all the way home
Isles are just playing keep-away right now - great start to the 2nd period forces the TB time out and now it leads to a goal.
Thank you Nate Thompson…
Nothing like Simmer quieting the crowd…
simer top self. lol
Well, thats a momentum killer….
boy who didn’t see that coming
Just tuning in. Hello All, Kinger, if you’re still here, Love your work.
Lou, if you’re here, I hate you. One of the most exciting players of the last 10 years and he’s going to the most boring team of the last 10 years. Great job
And Rolo gives it right back, he was probably bored from all that O-zone time we had
Seriously
2-2. TBL scores 25 seconds after Islanders take lead when Sim scores after Islanders keep puck in TBL zone for several minutes…CB
Roloson has looked EXTREMELY shaky tonight and really for the last 2 weeks. I still think the best solution is giving him consecutive starts, maybe even three, and seeing how he plays.
I was afraid of this. Rolo is playing down to DP’s level.
117: What happens when the both play themsevles out of the starting job? Kind of looks like that right now.
I’m thinking–there’s our first lead since the 2nd period against the Devils two weeks ago–and poof!
Wow… what a weak goal at a terrible time.
WOW. game over.
wtf was that?!?! how on earth do we give up a 2 on none?
Roloson, are you fricken kidding me…What a joke. That’s awful. AND THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE D!!!! A 2 on 0! ARE U KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!
And BOOOOOOOOM goes the dynamite
Wow, what an awful play while talking to Arbour. Like how he said “we had some great players back then”. Can Snow do something? Wow this d is bad.
Gordo is starting to have that Steve Sterling look on his face.
As Al Arbour is giving an interview, TBL goes on a 2-on-0 and score to take the lead. Oh my…CB
what the hell just happened?
Ugh. I had to run out East. isn’t there another channel other than 94.3 for out East LI ?
he is 40 and getting tired rickie should take spot as no 1 and trade rolie and biron back up
Streaming the game… First off, Kinger, it’d be nice to see you more involved in the broadcast. Perhaps when the Isles stop simulcasting they give you the job.
Also, sounds like Rolo gave up a softy and then got hung out to dry as I’m typing this… 3-2… sweet
Send Uncle Al to the Bench and let him yell at the boys and scare the crap out of them!
HOLY CRAP! What the heck is going on!
It is in the Islanders best interest to be sellers after watching this game. This team is in a complete free fall. Bergenheim, Hunter, Comeau all should be on the trading block. I would also look to move Roloson for the right deal. We need a top 5 pick.
139… a 2-0 is not roli’s fault at all… major major team breakdown there.. embarassing
Wheres Gillies? Now Konopka, the goon, is roughing up KO.
What an awful performance.
We need a fight …oh wait we dont have someone who could!
Our team is simply too short in stature and too short on talent. This is the NHL, right?
94.3 fm doesnt even work near the coliseum lol
I bet Taylor Hall is praying that the Isles start winning some games.
Terry Simpson 17 OT game
I don’t blame Roli for smashing his stick after facing the 2-on-0 that led to the goal - 5 Isles caught WAY up ice on that one - they need to get back to the work ethic that started the period so well.
Good news, we’ll be the fourth worst team in the league after tonight
Good news, we’ll be the fourth worst team in the league after tonight
Was it the Pat Lafontaine 4ot/Washington series that Al Didn’t coach?
Hard to imagine that Snow couldn’t offer something more enticing the NJ for Kovolchuk!
Let the Taylor Hall sweepstakes begin!
How is Tambs looking tonight? Im stuck at work and cant watch or listen?
This is terrible.
Kovy to the devs
I see that’s been discussed
Was it Crispy, CB?
I’m sure the Islanders will offer a tempting contract to Ilya Kuriyakin when he becomes a free agent in the summer.
162, Tambs hasn”t played any PP minutes. Gordon has lost his mind!
What in the heck happened? They were dominating earlier in the period right? Stupid simulcast! Bahh!
@162 — Tamby looks just as bad as the rest of the Isles! He fits right in.
139… a 2-0 is not roli’s fault at all… major major team breakdown there.. embarassing……….
Ugh, I didn’t blame it on Rollie, I blamed the 2nd goal on him. You can’t blame a goalie for a 2 on 0. It was a total fail by the 5 players in front of him
They are being physically demolished
this team could use a kovi….nobody scores
Nice job Jim Clark & Big Daily Mac - the Easter Epic series vs. Washington in 1987 is the correct answer - the only playoff series ever won by the Isles without Al behind the bench - Terry Simpson was there for that one.
Thats too bad man I think we all caught the fever two weeks ago….Man has the Isles star fallen….
and how can you say tamby is playing bad? its tough to be bad when you see 5 min of ice time so far
we are getting abused
Terry Simpson Easter Epic over Caps in 1987..
Now Bruno is decked. Whoever decided to send Gillies down should be fired.
This is like watching the Keystone Cops play hockey. Is there an unwritten rule that you can’t body check Martin St. Louis?
I don’t know about you ladies and gents but I want this team to nosedive in the standings! I would rather have a top 3 pick than have the 8 spot! Just my opinion and I am a season ticket holder! The reason I say this is because we can never get a top free agent so might as well get a great pick!
relax Bill, I like Tamby probably more than anyone here. It was more to let 162 know how bad the Isles look tonight.
Terry Simpson. 1987 Round 1 - Easter Epic.
Snow should have offered Baily, Comeau, Kohn and our #1 pick for Kovolchuk.
i cannot beleive how much this game has changed in 23 seconds. this captain needs to get on these boys’ butts a lil more
Boy this second period’s been painful to watch so far.
…The Islanders are getting bounced around pretty good. And after last year I do not ever want to see the Islanders lose. Those hoping for a nosedive shame on you…..even though its probably best….lol.
it’s like 5,6 years ago when they had tons of chances but couldn’t bury the puck if the world depended on it.
the ‘93 run was great because of all the finishers. turgeon, thomas, hogue, ferraro, king. sheesh. what happened to guys like that?
Can we please start a thread about why Garth Snow should be fired? There is no doubt the islanders are going to be outscored and outhit every game. This is like watching a women’s hockey team. Snow is Pathetic. There is no doubt the Islanders will be in the lottery again.
park totally just ruined a perfect 2 on 1 chance with an awful pass
How can the captain get on anyone when he is obviously done?? Weight is toast and wasting a roster spot and you want him to get on people?? Captains should lead by example, even if it is just a little bit. Weight has no presence whatsoever
(186) Not that Waddell hit the motherlode from the Devils, but he would have laughed at that offer…CB
No chance Atl would accept Baily, Comeau, Kohn and our #1 pick for Kovelchuck…….Nd Howie easy there, Rollie didn’t touch that shot haha
someone check howies ears ..how could he not hear the PING
Howie Rose….
thank heaven it’s only 3-2. They should be down by a dozen!
….well as far as the Kovie trade, very uncharacteristic move by the Devils. CB what do you think the Devils chances are of signing him? Assuming they want to?
#190 you are right! inever wanna see them lose! However, every year us fans say lets get this guy lets get that guy and what is CB’s opinion every time! Nope sorry fellas! keep dreamin! AND HE IS RIGHT ALL THE TIME! We will never get a premier player and keep him until the young pieces are in place! Nobody wanted to play for the Penguins 6 years ago!
in howies defense, billy thought rollie saved it too.
My apologies. Not that I’d have a lot of insight anyway, but I didn’t count on the Kovalchuk deal coming down just as the game started. Trying to juggle two sites now, and doing it crappily.
Thanks so much to Kinger for coming on. We’ll both be around during the third.
Hopping on a Don Waddell conference call during the intermission…CB
Ed, didn’t everyone in the world expect the team to suck again this season? So this is what we were supposed to be dealing with all season right? So, the rebuild is still going. I can’t say Snow should be fired because this is what everyone expected at the start of the season. How soon people forget.
Sorry CB. How can you say that the package proposed by 186 would be laughed at. Bailey looks like he might be something and the Isles # 1 will likely be a lottery pick, while Dev’s will be in the bottom 5. Please elaborate.
I’m screaming mad that we’re losing now and playing lousy hockey. And that’s good. Why? Becauase this time last year, I didn’t give a d**n. Gotta keep things in perspective.
that was disgusting 2 on 1….terrible lead pass and then i love KO to death, but idk where he was going with that…waited til he was behind the net to do something. youre the best player on the team…. SHOOT!!!
SIM <3<3<3<3<3
(204) I actually only saw the names and the No. 1 pick didn’t register. Fair enough, although a team would never let a Josh Bailey get in the way of making a deal like that…CB
CB and kinger- great job as always. Do you think it’s time for a lil shakeup in the locker room, and give KO the C? It obviously has paid off for Carolina so far, and if KO is really going to be C of the future (i think he will/should be), why not just give it to him now when he still has weight in the room to help him out. I think weight would understand the move, and accept it well.
Anyone have Fios with a messed up signal on msg+2? The picture hesitates or freezes for a split second. It’s been doing this for a while, really annoying!
I’m the 44th caller on the Don Waddell conference call. I’m sure countless more are joining in. It’s a good day for hockey, especially in New Jersey…CB
CB, What star players did NJ offer?
Bengfords, Odyua, Cormier, ist round pick. Bergfors is a nice player, other then that give me a break!
#210 no
MSG broadcast including Josh Bailey with Stamkos and Doughty as the breakout sophomores of the season…CB
I’d be ecstatic if I were a Devils fan. It was a good trade for them. Obviously if they don’t resign him it kinda sucks, but I think it was a solid job by Lou nonetheless.
I laughed at that poll.
Adding only Tavares and Roloson with adding proven scorers or improving the defense gets you back into the lottery. No question about. The surprise has been that the team did not free fall earlier. They better improve the team through trades and free agents. Nobody wants a lottery pick anymore after this year.
Saturday night’s game will feature MSG doing a Vezina watch with Brodeur, Quick, Miller and Roloson.
Sometimes I wonder how unknowledgable do they think we are?
What free agents! All B or C class free agents! The franchis sits their and twiddles there thumbs after one free agent pick up! We have multiple holes to fill! Not just one.
Bailey is having a solid second year but to include him with Stamkos and Doughty is a joke. I know its for the home team but still. Id actually vote Doughty. The points he has put up as a d-man is impressive.
Lets go Isles! Big time 3rd period here.
can anybody shoot/finish? jeeez somebody take a shot when we have an odd man rush
Isles are 1-21-4 when trailing after 2 periods - wouldn’t tonight be a good night for win # 2? Let’s see if they can start the 3rd period the way they started the 2nd…
Can anyone on here recommend a place locally to get hockey jerseys lettered professionally? I got a Knights Jersey I wanna get lettered with Tavares.
The Devils need to sign him long term. They cannot sell out there new building despite being a very good team for a long time. Kovy better bring the cup especially if the Devils do not resign him.
There are no place locally…I know that the mall in Smithhaven has a new store and have meet the guy and he sends them out to queens. Some of the work I have seen was good, but I am not sure for OHL jerseys.
Try Icejerseys.com or coolhockey.com
Why does Gordo insist on having a forward play the point on the PP? Weight adds nothing and KO needs to play in front.
Not only one of the worst but the ugliest power play in the league!
It would be easier to watch these losses if we never got a power play. Watching this joke of a PP makes it so much harder
Thanks Islesphan…
I find it fitting that the power play is sponsored by the NY lotto
Special teams have really hurt the Isles lately - they need to find a way to win that battle - PP is now 0-for-the-road trip.
If you got points for the most giveaways on the powerplay, we would win.
iceworks proshop
The team that couldn’t shoot straight
Does the Iceworks Pro Shop do OHL Jerseys? Is it professional stitching and specifications?
Tavares centering Bergenheim and Comeau… Someone needs to ask Gordon why… If he wants to help his struggling #1 pick, put him with some people who can actually help create or finish…
This team hasn’t been physical prepared to compete in the NHL for several years. All of a sudden Tampa is throwing huge hits and real into the pushing and shoving huh? I guess seeing Comeau assume the fetal position will make the rest of the teams feel even more like they can do as they please to the Isles AND THEY ARE RIGHT!
time to put jt, ko, and moulson back together to get some of that magic from the beginning of the year.
tommym…i totally agree, problem is, there is nobody on this team that can lately
I don’t understand some of Gordo’s line combos either.
lenny u are absolutly right have to get that line back together. btw get gervais of the pk unit.
The line juggling has begun with MM, JT and KO reunited as the # 1 line…
Islanders in the offensive zone = Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Say goodnight gracie
Game over
Tavares falls down - 5 seconds later Stamkos scores - unbelievable - i feel like this team is never gunna win another game
Stamkos makes it 4-2, Waddell call finally starts. What a night…CB
Tavares has been put with almost everyone on the roster. he needs to get out of this himself bc obviously it doesnt matter who he plays with. he looks like hes coming around.
Physical? I would say lack of talent all over (except in goal maybe) is a bigger problem.
roloson’s soft st louis goal change the tempo of this game completely. Isles worked so hard on offense then so lazy defensively. roloson last goal to stamkos was horrific.
and that’s game once more. Jezz, I’m starting to get quite upset. We had it going, and now, were kicking outselfs right back down the chain.
wow, we just really suck.
I feel like I’m watching a men’s league game. Does anybody else feel that. There’s no passion out there and the crowd is dead.
AL Arbor needs to take JT out on the ice and make him skate until he can go a full game without falling. A full shift would be a nice start.
they better lose for now on i want to see another goal scorer.
get rid of tamb’s
get rid of blake
get rid of neilson
this team is like a can of soda sitting out in the hot sun, no fizzle!
Well back to the top 5 pick talk again. It was a good run whille it lasted. I just hope the rangers dont make the playoffs.
O and the devils are my favorite to win the cup now. they have a top goalie and offensive stars now. They are a force in the East now(not that they werent already)
how does that draft lottery work again? You’d think we’d all know it by now.
Just seeing how much better Stamkos is in year two can only mean good things for JT next year…
im not worried about tavares. He needs one off season like bailey and nielson to get stronger. he not getting any support from teammates. do isles know where the high slot is. does anyone every go there.
Jeff (254) AMEN- For a guy who has so much skill it kills me to watch him repeatedly fall two times every shift
Can I get a Stamkos too? What an improvement from a year ago.
The Islanders who are in TRANSITION as they say, should still be busy at the deadline to transition into a better team. Theres a lot of younger guys that should be traded because they just aren’t what we need here….
Bruno Gervais- Goodbye please trade this guy.
Comeau-Like em but we need to score as you can see.
Bergenheim-works hard every shift, but he can not finish! He can go.
Doug Weight-We could do without his zero goals…
Park-Needs to be parted with
Sim-works hard but really any third line guy can produce like him.
Biron-obviously only a matter of time.
If we move all these guys maybe we can make some movement somewhere
It really is hard rooting for your team to lose, but it really is better for Isles to get a lottery pick.
Can we just clone 3 Okposos’ it would really speed up the rebuild
but stamkos can skate , jt not so much.
i got a suggestion on how to spice up the pp. lets try to get it to point for streit to shoot. oh wait. that is all we do. WHERE IS THE CREATIVITY? isles have lost all confidence.
Dont bench tambellini. he not getting any playing time.
Take hunter off PP, and Bench comeau and Park. They skate around like its the ice capades.
“Taveduch” or whatever it was never did have that nice a ring to it… but “Halguinler” or “Halsegowler” sound really bad. CB - Please come up with something a little nicer since I will be spending the next 5 months reading your blog and articles on the 2010 draft.
#260 you’re right, enough of these bad angle shots off of the half boards,especially on the power play.the only guy who goes to the slot is hunter(and by the time he gets there the play is going the other way).can someone,anyone stand in front of the net?
I have to disagree CB. Not a good night for hockey especially the Isles. The Isles never seem to get the big player. Another bad night for the Isles in a long string of bad nights.
…ummm wow that Stamkos kid can bring it huh?
I just wanna know why our D are always playing up..i understand its Gordons “system” but i am constantly seeing 2 guys going back..1 a foward..1 D
What’s that I hear in the distance?? Lottery Balls??? I think it is!!!
263 - In response to what you said, I completely agree. Except for the Comeau part. Next season I’d like to see Sim replaced with Chris Higgens. Bring the local boy back. I think he would fit well on this team and have something to prove if he were to come back to NY. Plus he’s a good defensive foward. Since Dougie Weight is on the wing now, I’d like to see Maxim Afenogenov get a 1 or 2 year deal here. Can you imagine him,Berggy and Park on a line. Talk about speed and a forecheck. Sign Kovulchuck and trade Gervais for a new stick boy, I think we look good for year 3 of the rebuild.
Another boring game..
Isles with 5 of the next 6 at home - really need to turn this around before the Olympic break. Thanks for letting me join in the fun tonight - it’s time for the extended post-game show on 94.3 WMJC.
New Jersey gets Kovalchuk, Islanders get softer by the game and yup…. same old same old Ny Islander Hockey just the new young faces change from time to time….
Disgusted as usual good night from siberia!
Lets Go Isles…. lets Go Islanders!
This Organization my God!..lol
I love my Isles but WHO in all seriousness are we BETTER than?!? Not the same…top to bottom BETTER. ?
sorry, i wont bash rollie b/c he has won way more games then he has lost us. this loss was on him.
CB, what does Gordon have against Tambellini. when he gets mins he produces. tonight was not used in scoring roll.
Schremp has gotten complacent too. This team needs an ARBOUR practice right now. Make them stay on ice and work them till the all throw up.
another dud from a team that just has no desire
Kinger! I miss listening to you on AM radio on my trips North Skiing!!!!!!
why should us fans care if our owner doesn’t care? for the few of us that do show up to games, stop going. charles wang is in it for his project that will never happen and he said it himself that he would have never bought the team if he could do it over. he refuses to spend money which sums it up, he is cheap. keep buying into this “rebuild” that has been taking place since 1994. chris, delete this post if you would like but it’s the truth.
This team is so weak and feeble. I can take the losing just not effort.
What does it say when Witt can’t make this team?
What did the Devs give up again?
Yeah, we didn’t need a guy like Kovy on our team.
Honestly they should play DiPietro more often…yea Rolo did a great job…good thanks but hes not future of the team its time to give Ricky the number 1 spot.
Can we please start lottery talk. Its going to be unbearable to watch this team for the rest of the season.
Under 10 minutes and no power play time for Tambellini (as per usual). They’re just never going to give him a legitimate chance. What did they have to lose by trying him out for real in this game?
(legitimate chance= 10 consecutive games of at least 15 minutes and second power play unit time. I can’t remember him getting this for more than one game at a time. He’s just not useful if he’s not going to be a top 6.)
Thanks Kinger you’re the best!!!
Unfortunately I’m not right outside the Coliseum and I don’t have a ham radio so I can’t hear your post game. : (
Thank you, Kinger! CB
.. Ive seen maybe 2 scoring chances (non powerplay, 5 on 5) in the 3rd period by the Islanders, and maybe 2 ’so-so’ body checks (Sutton + Hunter) but they have been hit ALOT by Tampa (especially in there own zone, the Dman)..
.. Thats a soft goal (it may have deflected off Striets stick) but thats a kinda soft goal let up by Rollie!
.. They just seem flat as a pancake, they really do. It could be a combination of things (tired? motivation? losing steak? etc) but they are a dead as a doornail team right now — they need the allstar break!
.. These guys are painfully slow/boring to watch, geeeez, no spark, no sense of urgency, NOTHING!!! b=-o-r-i-n-g! ZZzzz YUKKKK!!
no game changer on this team . jt maybe he’s a kid. ko great player not that much of a finisher though. josh kid and so on and so on. we just don’t have the chops all around.
sick of watching terrible passing and poor decision making. JT looked good tonight, weight looked awful. Weight does not merit pp time at the moment. Ill advised passing is killing this team.
Lottery pick here we come. It’s actually a good thing because the overall talent level on this team needs to rise. We miss Jack Hillen’s ability to generate offense on the rush.
Park sucks. The guy just sucks.
…soooo how about that draft class? Taylor who?
This team is getting tough to watch. They have to be the worst passing team in the nhl.The real isles are starting to show up.Snow may as well bring up anybody he thinks can play on the isles next year and see what they have. Cut ties with weight, sim,park gerv,meyer and who everelse doesnot fit next year. And can we please throw a check, and get some toughness before someone gets hurt bad
I have the new islanders commercial! Can’t score + Bad Goaltending + Inept Powerplay + Defenseman that can’t hit the net + Coach that shows no fire on the bench = Another Islanders Lottery pick! LOL
of course we wont be BAD ENOUGH to draft one of the big 3 this year.
i actually dont want the opposing team to take anymore penalties… the powerplay SUCKSSSSSS soooo much… the team is playing terrible… in the beginning of the year, tavares had at least 3 scoring chances a game… now hes lucky if he has 3 in a week… he has to get back to scoring if this team is gonna win, but thats not news to anyone… i want the team to win so bad, but from the looks of it, another top 5 pick looks like a strong possibility… its a shame i really thought we were going to be in the playoffs
Scott Gordon tells MSG the team wasn’t out-played in the third, his young players will someday be snipers and “look down the hall” referring to Tampa’s talent…CB
In all honesty, I was expecting them to sink eventually. They hung longer than I thought they were going to.
This team is absolutely brutal right now, and the special teams are about as bad as they get. No chance this team makes the playoffs, none. We need to be sellers at the deadline and just get the best draft pick that we can.
Thanks to CB and KInger for dropping by on this hectic night. Too bad our heroes faded. Go get ‘em Saturday night at the old barn on Hempstead Turnpike. I hope to be there. Disappointing loss but time takes time. Don’t go for quick fixes, Mr Snow
@ Crazy8 - I agree. I don’t think Tamby could be a game changer, but after the start he had to this season I think he earned at least a longer look than he has ever gotten. I mean 13 points in 24 games puts him up there with Bailey in terms of production, maybe even better. I don’t expect him to produce anything anymore since he’s been in the press box for two months. I guess the Isles believe he has some kind of trade value or else they would’ve waived him or something by now. It seemed like this was actually going to be his year. Seems like a waste.
i think instead of look down the hall Gordon should have said look at Taylor Hall
CB- Can’t blame you for not foreseeing this, but the Islanders are for all intensive purposes, out of the playoff race before the Olympics. It’s a shame because this team showed real promise for a long time. Very disappointing to say the least. I am very interested to here your thoughts on the performance of Snow and Gordon by season’s end, because if this kind of play continues, and I can’t see it turning around drastically, there are many things to look at and be concerned about, IMO.
It’s really going to be tough to keep watching the team the rest of the way. Management is going to have to make some kind of move. Take any draft pick back for Park Sim and Weight. See what Bergenheim and Comeau bring back. Charles is going to have to start talking Lighthouse/Isles future because the on ice product is not getting it done.
Ditto!! Becoming very tough to watch! Have been a fan for years and this is a BAD team! Like last year. Saw them play at Carolina last Thursday. They were smaller, slower, etc. This is a good AHL team not an NHL team. Okposo, Moulson, Tavares, Baliey, Nelisen and Streit are the only keepers on this team. The D men on this team are real bad!! And, there is still no big scorer on this team. Maybe Tavares in 3 years?!
CB. You have GOT to be kidding me about Gordons post game comments.
Please?
If I see Weight or Hunter on the first powerplay next game Im gonna be pissed. They are both useless and cannot cycle the puck at all. Also, JT needs a night off. Let that kid sit he looks gased and just outmatched out there most shifts.
Chris, the difference between Stamkos and Tavares is that Stamkos is a great skater and Tavares just can’t skate. I don’t think next year he’ll be flying all over the ice. He has great hands, very good vision, but he is just TOO slow. Speed - either you have it or not, you can’t teach speed
How much does Hillen mean? Since he left the ice last week, the Islanders have been outscored 18-4.
I wish folks would calm down a bit. Our blue line has always been thin and we got terrific efforts this year just to reach this point. Of that, three of the top six to start the year are gone or out–including the guy who emerged as one of our top 3. Even the Penguins didn’t look so great for a stretch with missing D-men
Also, as I write–Gordon notes the talent factor, which can decisive over an 80-game schedule.
If I’m concerned about anything tonight–it’s Bergie not fully putting it together since he came back, Comeau sliding a bit, and Tamby looking every bit the non-factor who was sat down for so many games.
At a major crossroad right now with this team. It may be time to start rooting for us to lose to increase the chances of getting Taylor Hall or Cam Fowler. I guess lets see how the next 5 games go before the Olympic break. Right now, no optimism at all.
WANG MUST WALK ! Stop torturing the team and its fans and using them as pawns for a project that will never be approved much less financed !!!! Enuff is enough ! Been a fan since 79 ! We deserve better ! CB you are a breath of fresh air …. WANG should learn a thing or two about loyalty from you !!! Dont post this if it “offends the current regime” …BUT Enough is enough ! Sell the team … Just WALK … WALK WANG WALK >>>> and WALK AWAY !
How come every time they lose they gave no effort? i don’t think effort is the problem, we just have too many kids in key spots who are going through the growing pains of learning to play in NHL
311- Wang walks and so does this hockey team when the lease expires. I just do not understand how Wang is the problem, he seemingly has given Snow control of hockey things unless CB can dispute otherwise.
Gordon’s starting goalie selection this Saturday night will tell us if Roloson is the #1 goalie on this team or if there is now officially a platoon system in place. If Roloson is truly the #1, he should get the start even though he was awful tonight.
I have no doubt that Tavares will be a better player next year… and the team will be better. But this is a team that is being constructed with the philosophy, “I don’t want to lose any more money”.
YOU JUST CAN’T WIN THAT WAY.
Get these kids some help… not a lot… just SOME. PLEASE.
June is a +4 proposition. The time to make this team better is JULY.
PROOF: Shots 36-30, Goals 5-2
Things are working but they need some more skill on the top.
The problem with me and the way the team is playing lately is … they honestly don’t look like they belong in the same league with the opposition … even the closer games.
Sometimes they look like they are stringing together a few good shifts … then all of a sudden they get a penalty … and it kills any momentum that they might of had.
Even on the PP … if they don’t score … they seem to lose their mojo.
Also … this goes for most of the team … They can’t finish as well lately … even the top guys we are counting on in the future … like JT, KO & JB.
CB- do you think veteran players like Sim and Park can be moved for middle round picks. Both are UFA and i doubt they are in the plans.
320 - Wasn’t he basically saying that the Isles don’t have the talent that the TBL have? They don’t, but the coach doesn’t need to say so. I didn’t hear him say that the Isles miserable PK and PP are all on the coaching staff, which is the case.
318- maybe it is time to play DP as the number 1, he is the best player on the team. I mean when Roloson signed here i am sure he knew what was going to happen when DP returned anyway. I think neither guy is set mentally to be one game on one game off types of goalies and maybe they can get on a roll again with DP in net.
For the love of Zeus, step away from the ledge! As of tonight, the Isles are 8 points away (and 4 wins) from improving on last season’s totals, and there are still more than 20 games left. The 09-10 Islanders are what they are. A second-year rebuilding team whose young core have shown growth, and who will be augmented by several new faces for 2010-11. We had a great run in January, but I want Snow to stay the course.
Weight stinks JT can stay at my house. Actually he should stay at Bossy’s house at least he could show him how to score a goal. Bailey and Hillen have been the best on the team and now that there out we stink.Tamby i dont understand he’s better than Sim,Park,Bergenheim and Comeau so he should play.
323- The special teams, well more so the PP are struggling because of the youth that plays on it are struggling. Weight, Streit and Hunter are only “vet” players who see playing time on PP. The PK is awful because of the crappy defensemen we have like Gervais(who never gets the puck out)
Many items about tonight.
1. as mentioned above the difference between Stamkos and Tavares is wheels. Tavares will be fine in 2 years.
2. Tamby is wasting away on this team. NO pp time, that’s a joke. I’m sick of Neilson and Weight on the PP.
3. I can’t stand watching Comeau, he is supposed to be physical. I haven’t seen him hit anyone in weeks.
4. Okposo and Schremp is a bad combo. They both like to handle the puck. I think they looked awkward together.
5. Snow and Gordon need to have a heart to heart about WHO the skilled guys are on this team. They might need to reevaluate the talent. Too many guys that play who really don’t fit.
Overspeed is difficult to play with Moulson, Hunter, Weight, Sim and Tavares!
I know Kovalchuk won’t sign with the trapping Devils. I just hope Wang and Snow offer him the world even if it means throwing in 40 virgins!
317- Snow may have “control of hockey ops.” but not any money to pull the trigger … WANG has become the “SLUMLORD OF THE NHL”
322- I didn’t see Gordon’s comments as that big of a deal, he was making the point that our younger top players are struggling at same time.
Listen. When this team wins 4 in a row everyone is going crazy talking about the Stanley cup finals
They lose 6 and people are telling Wang to sell the team
Stop being so damn schizophrenic and learn some patience JT definitely needs to shoot more but has improved tremendously from his slump there’s a lot of hope can’t wait till next season
Thanks CB for the coverage I know it’s a lot of work juggling two sites especially in thie midst of the kovy trade
325- Agreed on Comeau, not really sure what he is. May not even be an NHL player. I am not a big believer in Tambellini, he can’t play 5 on 5 at this level. He doesn’t have the heart or skill level of a St. Louis who succeeds at this level.
326- slumlord of NHL? wow it is amazing what a losing streak does to this fanbase.
325- WANG and snow offering Kovi the world ??? what world do you live in ?? WANG is a slumlord who is basically done w this team … He would sign you or I if we were cheap enough … In fact he has…as fans that is ! and pulled a “snow job” on us while all along WAIVING HIS WANG!
326- they traded for Smyth and offered him a bigger contract then he got from AVS, his agent even confirmed it but he wanted to play with Sakic and that was deciding factor. I don’t buy that they won’t spend, they need to build this from ground level up so they can convince a star to wanna join the core of Tavares, Okposo and Bailey.
Can we please stop with the Tamby love. Hes not the answer for our struggling offense or the future. Besides his hat trick, what has he done this year? Since his hat trick he has played 17 games and scored all of 1 goal. Sign him to a 15 year deal
We dont want Kovalchuk because we would be just like the Rangers with Gaborik. We want to bring up guys through the draft not, trade them to get one guy. I’d rather have 6 or 7 picks in the first three rounds at this point.
333- Amen, Tambellini will not be on this team next season. People are so freaking facinated by his great wrist shot in shootouts. The goal he scored to complete his hat trick earlier this year is only time i can remember him scoring on a wrist shot in a “real game”
325- Nothing to do w the losing streak ….These kids deserve better and us as fans do as well … This is bordering on rediculous …How many years must we be subjected to this nonsense ? Yet they have the audacity to call and offer us discounts on tix. … When they put a decent product on the ice (or try) I will rent a g-d damn “luxury suite” ( as I have before ) .for now I can only support the kids and hope they develop properly despite a lame duck owner waiting for some pipe dream development deal …Horrible ! Isles fans are the best fans of any team in any sport ..Yet are treated like - - - - by an owner holding the team hostage …At this point I dont care where they move just get this guy OUT !
we lose but losing makes you tougher so this team will be tougher after olympics
The TANK is on, draft lottery here we come!
Tambellini is a hack, a bust. Have him be the waterboy, he’d be more useful.
PEZ(328) you beat me too it man.
Attention Crybabies: Deal with it. This is what you signed up for. (Rebuilds don’t happen 55 games in)
The real talent on this team can be seen night in and night out when you are actually paying attention. Stop looking at stats and watch the damn games and you will see the heart and determination of those who lead us in the future.
…..wow. The fanbase is in hysterics. Ok let me stoke the fire. The Islandera are gonna tank themselves right out of the playoffs. Then after the Olympic break play all loose and go on a streak and draft like 8th or 9th this draft year further perpetuating mediocrity as Snow signs no one of any significance.
Go..Go looks shell shocked.
Speaking of the draft, it’s Cam Fowler for me.
PS We dont deserve you Botta, your the man.
326- Smyth was an isolated case, there he didnt really want to stay in the east regardless of which team … and even then the situation w the development project was still pretty much 50/50..Now that the prospect for the project is bleak … WANG WILL NOT SPEND !
CB — U R AMAZING ! TY !
“I would buy a lux suite to see you ( esp. see you skate )” !
this team is done….its time for 3 things to happen:
1. a healthy scratch for Tavares
2. trade all of the UFA’s
3. Bring up Joensuu & Trevor Smith and let them play…the lottery watch has begun
CB- Will you have the top 10 draft chart posted tomorrow?
FOWLER ! ( W / our luck he will be another Berard) …lol
342- He spent on DP, yeah hindsight is DP got hurt but what if he does find it again and becomes an elite number 1 for a 4 million a year price tag. He spent on Yashin and Peca, Osgood as well that got them some respectability back. We finally have the right plan in place(look at Caps, Kings and Hawks)
Can we call a moving van for Trent Hunter? I’m sick of looking at him. Somebody should give him a map to find the net.
344- Trevor Smith has 28 points in 50 something AHL games this year, he is not an NHL player. I do agree they should start to explore UFA’s like Park and Sim to see what they can get if anything
I dont understand how they can let themselves get knocked around the ice night after night and not have one guy stand up for himself let alone someone else. This team has to be the nicest team to play in the league.
to add to my earlier comment about how bad the powerplay is… last year streit went up the ice with confidence and was able to bring the puck into the offensive zone… now what is does is a little skate to the right, looks to his left and looks to pass it to somebody else who tries to go up the middle and eventually turns the puck over… whoever reads this comment, on saturday when the isles have a powerplay, just watch what streit does, i guarnatee its exactly what i said he does… my point in all this is that they have to make changes on the powerplay and streit and the coaches have to look at some video of his play last year on the powerplay to try and fix what he is doing now
#313, with ya all the way, AND CW can take his current management with him…
They will get better next year, kids like Rahkshani, Hamonic, Poulin and possibly Ness turn pro next year. They now need to figure out(may already know) about guys like Comeau, Bergy and Gervais this season to see if they are going to be part of this thing going forward.
Stamkos was a healthy scratch last year
350- one thing about the PP i have noticed lately is how high in the zone Tavares has been. I think he needs to be lower towards the net, this is where he is going to score most of his goals from and was where he was playing earlier this year. Maybe your right and it is something the coaches changed.
Clearly this team has lost its stamina, which is okay for where they are in the rebuild. Currently, as they are fourth to last in the NHL standings and I think if they cannot pull it together by the Olympic break, the best option for their future would be in getting a top 5 pick in this year’s draft. As much as I would love to see them in the playoffs, they do not have the skill or enough left in tank to make a long run this year, and I would much rather them be able to draft another great prospect, as opposed to landing with the 15th pick in June. While last year we rooted for the first pick in the draft by early December, doing so by the end of February this year is still considered progress. The Isles should be looking real good in 2011-2012 if they stay the course.
PS: Don Waddell should be fired for that trade…how does he not get David Clarkson in that trade…he was fleeced….Lou even got him to swap 2nd round picks….Seems like ever year Waddell gets fleeced…Coburn for Zhitnik
Hossa to Pitt for Armstong with 3 nobodys..and now this bad Kovalchuk trade…this city of Quebec should thank Waddell b/c that Franchise will be leaving ATL in 2 years max…terrible move on behalf of the NHL…sorry for the rant, but this wasn’t a good trade for a franchise player…I would have just kept him and tried to make the playoffs if that was the best offer.
Roli made some good saves tonight late in the 2nd period, but the 2nd goal and the 4th goal are stops he has to make. Soft goals by both he and Dipietro are killing this team lately. I know they aren’t scoring goals but it deflates teams, always has in the NHL.
Here is what I would do.
1. Sign Petrov and get him over here.
2. Sign David Ulstrom and bring him over
3. Picking 1 take Hall, 2 take Seguin and picking 3 Fowler. Otherwise, best available. If I get Fowler I would use DeHaan and 2011 1st round pick as a package to get a scorer.
4. Goodbye Weight, Sim, Park etc.
5. Trade Bergenheim, Hunter, and Comeau before the deadline or in the offseason. They have no future here. Hunter’s lack of footspeed is killing the team.
We have to make sure we are players in either the restricted or unrestricted free agent market. No Matt Moulson’s please. I know he is been great this year but you dont win cups with Moulson as top 6 forward. This offseason is the key as to whether Snow has the “rebuild” on the right track or have the proccess fall off the tracks in which he needs to be re-evaluated as GM.
I disagree with people saying this team has no desire. They had the first 10 shots of both the 2nd and third period and were all over Tampa for large parts of this game. Tampa did a good job of not allowing odd man rushes or Islander players in front of the net and Roloson let up 2 goals that in my opinion are unacceptable. You can say a lot of negative things, but the effort was there tonight.
That game was not Roloson’s fault, all of the young guys have faded - Weight, Park, & yes Jon Sim plaed well…Stamkos 2nd goal was a blast and was redirected…..Roloson has been very solid and has given this team some sort of respect this year, and kept them in ever game….but if Snow trades him to a team like Chicago for a decent package I would not be shocked.
I just want to go to the games and see an exciting team! Win or Lose! BTW can GO-GO Gordon actually show a little fire on the bench! I mean get pissed!!!!!!!!! But don’t go ReTortorella on us! haha
CB - Sorry for all of these Posts..everthing is frustrating tonight….Even the NHL has one of their biggest Stars traded and their Network has a Women’s hockey game on with no news breaks about the trade
Hey everybody! Look on the bright side! The Isles are officially in the bottom 4 of the league! WHOOOOOO HOOOOO!!!
Crap all over the ice, not fun to follow anymore
Healthy scratch for tavares? I thought Tavares was the only player that showed up tonight for the Islanders! If anyone else showed up, tavares would have put one home. He will put one home Saturday and the Islanders will win, BUT I still think they might be a lotterty team even though I said no way just a week ago. I think Tavares will improve in the last 20 games of the season and play well. I do not see him becoming a star for another 2 years. Thats 2 summers of bulking up and no scoring 30 goals next season does not make him a star.
thanks for this Birthday present
this team is cursed. You cant blame Snow for drafting Tavares, he was the consensus #1 but lets face it, he’s not very exciting to watch. John Tavares is a Cory Stillman, Andrew Brunette like player, great hands, great hockey sense, may get 25 goals and 40 assists but he is no franchise player. I’d kill to watch a Kovalchuck but no FA in their right mind will come to LI
348 - Trevor Smith could very well be an NHL player if given a chance. He’s far and away the best player in Bridgeport and has nobody to play with there. He’s earned a shot, he’s just not getting it. It’s time.
It was good while it lasted. Its getting boring watching loss after loss. At least we have a good pick coming again.
And we can watch the Rags lose.
This will also make olympic hockey look better.
Some positives amidst a 6 game losing streak.
1. The “why isn’t tambellini playing” crowd is going to get an answer or an argument soon.
2. It’s time for Garth to make some tough decisions… just like with Witter. Does Trent really fit this system? Does Comeau?
3. If they improve next year at the same rate they have from last year this team will challenge for the division. That probably means adding $7-10M in payroll for two top 6 forwards, Sutton, and another 20+ minute “D” to compliment the tremendous bargains Snow has in Hillen and MacDonald. .. Their bottom six should get stronger with Martin and Joensuu at no extra charge.
You guys kill me. This team over achieved this year and gave us an exciting 50 games of hockey…Now the rebuild continues with another lottery pick. You cant scream about Ko,JT and JB not carrying us. They are kids!! The lack of real serious Veteran talent is what is killing this team. Don’t you remember how bare the cupboard was a few years back.Get rid of all the dead wood bring up some more kids and just be patient. 2012 is the season we will all be waiting for!!!
Scott Gordon: modern day Bill Stewart?
I hate to sound like a ninny or something, but you mean to tell me the Islanders couldn’t put together a comprable package like THAT for Kovalchuk?
Hard to believe that the Thrashers gave up Kovalchuk for a mere bag of pucks and a few broken hockey sticks. Geez…
Hey Islander fans… How would you like Don Waddell as your GM? Snow’s looking pretty darn good.
Wow!!!
DOC
373- Comparable for us would be Bailey, Hillen, Rahkshani and our 1st(lottery possibly) pick. I would not make this trade for a guy who can walk at years end and plans on testing market no matter where he was traded
The Islanders have NO BUSINESS trading there first round pick this season, probably do not have any business trading it next year either. Lets get real here, this is a rebuild. Honestly I would take Getzlaf over Kovalchuk. The guy hits, passes, skates well, is tough, is a winner. Okay right now hes half the scorer Kovalchuk is but the guy is a WINNER. Right now I do not categorize Kovalchuk as a franchise or winning player. I take a Getzlaf, Malkin, Crosby, Ovechkin, Iginla, and Zetterberg over him right now because you know those players give it there all every shift.
i would take Witt over Bruno every day of the week and twice on Sunday. that kid brings nothing to the table.
No spark on this team whatsoever. They’re so easily thrown off their game. They can’t expect to carry this into the Olympic break without some significant changes.
The team doesn’t come back from that break and suddenly overachieve again.
I’ve officially given up on Comeau - he’s a pure bust. Time to bring up JJ and see what the kids got for the rest of the season.
And yet another game where the Isles were physically manhandled (and by a team that’s not overly physical no less). Sad.
CB, great Idea on the live coverage. thanks again for all you do.
370 371 - you guys are the true fans. Young team, 3-5 pieces away from a solid contender. Hang in there, Isles country. Long run at home before a needed break to recoup.
Marc from troy. i think Gordon will not throw a full bottle of beer from inside to outside of the Bus in the angry fans like Bill Stewart in his days when he coached the former German champion Mannheim with former Isles Pilone Butenschön. Now he is the coach for the Cologne Sharks also DEL. where Stewart is there is entertaintment sure
i’ll forgot to say through the glasses from the Bus…;-)
the islanders lost last night. look out below because here comes the sky upon our heads. pfft please. :-\
Trent Hunter nice guy meh hockey player deal him. Same with Bergie/Comeau…
Time to make some trades Snow - do not wait and get nothing
I have one big question - what the hell happened to JT? Two possibilities: either he’s worn down - BS the NHL schedule doesn’t seem to have hurt Duchene - or he’s injured. If he’s injured WTF is he playing?? I’ve gotta believe he got hurt in November/December and carrying on is aggravating the injury.
The only reason he hasn’t been put on IR is probably because if he sits it looks like we’ve tanked the season which looks bad for ticket sales esp. when Snow and Co. won’t pony up for a scorer to take his place.
Now that his chances for the Calder are pretty much toast, if he still struggles after the Olympic break I bet he misses at least the last 10 games of the season due to a “surprise” injury long after the Isles’ chances for the playoffs are done.
There have been a few mentions of “ex-Isle”ing Bergy throughout this thread. I don’t get it. Because he doesn’t score? A few poorly timed obstruction penalties?
Bergy is EXACTLY what this team needs. He’s not a top 6 guy, but he is what they need in their bottom six to succeed.
When the Isles fill their top spots a third (or fourth) line of Bergy-Frans-Martin(?) should give them 9-14 MINS of pressure… maybe not a flood of goals… but a line like that will add secondary scoring and wear an opposing team out.
Some thoughts:
Islanders special teams are atrocious. The PP is just sad. All perimeter shots from bad angles and not enough traffic in front.
No offensive flow at all. This team needs more skill and speed in the line-up and Gordon needs to utilize his players better.
The team has no depth and cannot overcome injuries to key players.
The team, particularly the defense, needs to get more physical.
And Big Lou should be arrested for theft. That can’t possibly have been the best offer for Kovie. I’m seriously jealous.
Lastly, after all the excitement, its really disappointing watching the team crumble before our eyes now. Its time for Snow to start weeding out the weak links so this team can take another step forward.
Chris,
I thinks Snow screwed up by waiving Witt. Granted they say he was shopped around and there were no takers they should have played him. You have the Olympics coming up & the official dedline is March 3rd. Who knows what injuries can pop up on our team or any other team. Why couldn’t we swap him for Ryder. Salary is equal. Or if not maybe Witt would have played somewhat better and you could have pulled a Guerin type trade or taken on someone. Now we will get nothing for him or may loose him on re-entry. What will we do if Sutton goes down
I have been saying this for weeks. Trade all the ufa’s. Trade sutton for at least a #2 and good prospect. Biron #3. Park #4. Sim maybe a 5. Trade Jackman or resign him. Hunter needs to be traded also. If we do all these trades we will be much better in 2 years.
What moves do you expect from Garth Snow ?
He is not (even renotely) a Big Lou.
The only think he can do by any moves is to screw up this team even more.
CB….Not saying I would make this trade but would we have gotten Kovalchuk if we offered a healthy Jack Hillen, Moulson, one of either Petrov/Hamonic/DeHaan and a 1st rounder?
RHL - No
If there were any talks at all between the Isles and Atlanta it is almost a a definite that they would have wanted Okposo as part of the deal. As you know, that is a deal breaker for us as he is an “untouchable.”
A No. 2 and a prospect for Andy Sutton? Islesfan 999, please send your resume to Charles Wang ASAP.
I see alot of fans overvalue our players. Don’t get me wrong, some of the vets can help out certain teams down the stretch, but I think many of the GMs would roll their eyes at some of these offers. I know if I was the other GM, I’d turn down alot of these proposed trades in a heartbeat.
393 NYICHAMP39 - Im sure Atlanta wanted Zajac as well and NJ didnt budge. Not saying we should have tried to get Kovalchuk but i think we had a shot without giving up Okposo or Tavares.
Why would the Islanders give up ANYTHING for Kovi? Bailey? Are you nuts? Hillen? I’d have hunted Snow down and melted him.
We are not a 40 goal scorer away from the cup, or probably even a series win.
I’d have given up the number one for him last year if he came with a long term extension. This year… NO WAY.
This team will improve in July… not in February. We just need to let experience play its part.
This team really needs to get tougher next year. It looks like the heart has been taken out of them. My wish list so far for next year. Sign Raffi Tores, Thorton and Eric Nystrom and it will not be so easy to beat the crap out of us.
Gee - did I miss something when we were winning? Don’t remember all these boo-hoos then. We are rebuilding. We have young players. We have a salary cap. And has anyone besides me notice that since DP is back, our win column has decreased. I know they are all professionals but it looks like plain old me sees a lack of confidence in Roly. Brought on by the insertion of DP. I would have never played DP a couple of weeks ago after a tremendous win by Roly. That could undermine anyone’s confidence! Just look back and think about it. So I’ll just keep going to the games, agonizing over losses, cheering for goals. PS - there was a stretch when our PK unit hadn’t allowed a goal in several periods. Ah, how quickly the good is forgotten and only the bad remains.
I didnt say we should have given anything up for Kovy….I was just asking if a deal like that would have netted us Kovy. I agree, stay the course and maybe give a shot at signing Kovy in the summer but not at the 11 mill a season he wants.
Look at the brightside…We are in the process of rebuilding, we have the 4th worst record in hockey, and are sitting on a much needed lottery pick. We didn’t give up our much needed prospects for 3 months of Kovalchuk, which wouldn’t have resulted in a serious cup run. If Kovalchuk was the difference between winning the cup or not winning the cup, you make that trade. There is a reason Atlanta has 1 playoff appearance in 8 seasons..Kovalchuk can’t do it on his own. I have no problem waiting out the season and trying to sign him as a free agent, but you don’t give up players for him….
350 - isles3113 is right on the money about Streit on the PP. It’s way too predictable and the opposing team’s PK is zeroing in on Streit. I remember Gordon yelling at one of the assistants about how SLOW the puck movement was thru the neutral zone during the PP.
Helene (number 399)…If DP coming back has resulted in our losing ways lately, it is the best thing he has ever done for our franchise. I would rather have a top 3 pick in the draft than compete for the 8th seed with an invitation to get swept by the Capitals in the first round of the playoffs. The prospect helps our team more in the long run than 4 games of playoff experience will. It could be worst, at least the Islanders aren’t the Mets.
The only way Kovalchuk would ever consider signing here would be if Wang blew him away with a 11 million dollar a year offer.
I still can’t believe people are suggesting moving Roli.Move him for what?? for who?? Move him and we have NO Netminder at all! He IS the only reason why we were were winning at all! I mean come on…we were certainly not winning because all of the 40 goal…sorry I meant 30 Goal…sorry I meant 20 Goal scorers. Move Roli for anything other than another Caliber goalie and we might as well play with an empty net. I like DP but no way in his condition is gonna keep the puck out of the net especially with our D in front of him. Biron….come on seriously? There is a reason why nobody else wanted to pick him up…and he is not 40 years old! Keep Roli for his next contract year and lets see what Snow does about the Goalie situation barring a DP miracle.
The 4th pick in the draft gives us Gudbranson or Kabonov. Both are big and fast. Gudbranson is exactly what the Isles need. A big, fast physical d-man. This losing streak is looking better and better.
kovy turned down 100+ mill extension to stay in atlanta. he wanted out and got it. mark my words the devils dont spend big money and he will be a free agent come july 1 st.this gives snow a chance to make a play for him over the summer if he wishes. we have to many holes and 10 million a year can fill those wholes. biggest issues are our special teams. i like gordon but seriously how does our top scorer not get substantial pp time. why does bruno get pk time he is to soft. in the new nhl special teams makes u a contender or a pretender. the isles being in the bottom of both we are pretenders. btw put moulson, jt, and ko back together. let the future jell together. any point kovy went for nothing what do u really expect to get for our tradable players come on. witt was shopped and got nothin, he only moves if he gets put on reentry waivers. snow u owe the man that much to burry him in the minors is a sin regardless of his play of late dont be that guy. snow- instead of being our back up and not playing much being a seasoned vet how would u feel if u were sent down. you gave hime the extension and the money so do the right thing!!!!!!
R.I.P. 2009-2010 New York Islanders
I don’t believe anyone is truly jumping ship. This team needs to be reevaluated. The core players(top 6 fwds) are Okposo, Baily and Tavares. We don’t have true top six fwds. This next group must be looked at with a magnifying glass. (Tambellini, Schremp, Hunter and Moulson)
The way I see it Neilson and Begenheim are 2/3 of the 3rd line.
Park, Weight, Jackman and Sim should be gone!
The fourth line should be Comeau, T. Smith and the Wrecker.
CB: Gordon’s “look down the hall” comment sounds eerily similar to Bill Stewart’s comment that you described the other day. Not exactly a way to show Scott has confidence in his young team. I’m disappointed in him.
The wrecker should never be in the NHL except for Ranger and Flyer games - he still needs to learn how to play hockey…but he is no Mitch Fritz (where is he bouncing at bar somewhere)
This team needs some new faces-I’m sorry but the Islanders Strategy of Signing over the hill veterans is not working anymore…they should not do that anymore…cut to the next scene, they Sign Keith Tkachuk on July 1st
CB - any word on any Sutton contract extention talks or is he halfway out the door?
CB, I have to believe that the primary cause for the Isles decline at this stage of the season is due to being physically manhandled all season. After 57 games of being hammered, the players are banged up and just don’t have the strength they had at the beginning of the season.
FYI: The Leafs got REAL tough and signed a big time goal scorer in the offseason, and theyve had a stellar year….
This team is rudderless. Wait! lets come in last in the east
so we can continue buliding in the draft for the umteenth year. It’s south from here boys.
Lets go devils!
The isles show 6 weeks of inspiration and everyone gets on board…now everyone’s got nothing but trash to talk. This team is young and needs to develop. Trading away a pick would be so counterproductive at this point. Let the young talent develop and if the time is right…I mean truly right, then look for the veteran. Trading away a piece of the nucleus at this point would probably accomplish nothing…and past history has shown that it won’t work anyway. Everyone wants a cup NOW and its just not going to happen. The team needs a few more years of experience and a few more pieces to the puzzle to fall into place. Any number of the current young crew could develop into one of those pieces a little ways down the road…and throwing them away for a 1 or 2 year deal with a veteran is not the way to building a consistent contender.
The problem with this REBUILD, and the reason for the avid fan’s ire and impatience is the fact that it’s been TOO LONG in the making …. whether it be one regime or another. It’s completely understood on our part. I understand what the Isles are trying to do …. but I’m allowed to be disgruntled after a decade of ‘rebuild-incompetence’.
#416 the Islanders did not rebuild during the early part of the decade. Signing yashin to 10 years 190 mill and trading for peca and Aucoin is not a rebuild. They had no young players on that team. They did try to rebuild from 95-00 but Milbury messed that up.