RANGERS AT ISLANDERS, 7PM
Teams Going in Different Directions Meet Tonight
Update: Kyle Okposo to sit so Nino gets in the lineup. Message sender right there.
What a difference a month makes. The high point of the Islanders season thus far was a win at home against the Rangers on October 15th. Almost a month later, the Islanders have added only one win and a bunch of not much else. Meanwhile, the Rangers are on a six game win streak and 9-3 since the mid-October meeting. The polar opposites meet tonight at the Nassau Coliseum.
Nino Niederreiter will likely make his season debut tonight although Capuano was not confirming or denying this to the media this morning. He also would not talk about whose spot Nino would be taking if he were to play (and you can be assured he is playing, given the struggles of half the roster).
Capuano was willing to talk about the goaltenders, though. Evgeni Nabokov will be in net tonight with Al Montoya backing up. In Nabokov’s six starts this year, the Islanders are 1-4-1. It’s easy to say that the team isn’t playing well in front of Nabby but that would imply that they’ve played better in front of the other two goalies. DiPietro and Montoya have a combined three wins.
My apologies for a short pre-game. Other responsibilities are taking precedence today. You can continue the conversation in comments.
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Teams Going in Different Directions Meet Tonight
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Nabby needs marketing time if we’re going to trade him.
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So, derail another season in attempt at getting a 3rd, rather than 4th, Round pick in a trade? Really?!
Roloson’s play for the Isles was excellent when he was traded, and Snow only managed to get Wishart in return – a player whom Snow recently put on waivers and no other team in the League even sniffed at.
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Snow has already surrendered this season.
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Its not that no other team wanted him as a prospect its that no other team was willing to play him in the nhl now.
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at this point I wouldnt have much faith in our team playing in the minors.. Terrible day to be at work with all these meat head rag fans
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Okposo should be scratched tonight, then Rolston on Thursday. If they lose tonight changes need to be made, trade or fire coach. Same Exact Scenario as last season, we could be done by Thanksgiving. What a joke
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Im all for KO being scratched…they should also take his A away for now
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agreed!
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I agree. Okposo should be scratched. Two reasons: one, he’s not performing; two, it will send out a message to the team that if one of the more established players with an “A” on his jersey can get scratched, no one should feel entitled to a spot in the lineup.
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LMAO
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too the dipietro comment below
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They should start DP. They play much better with him in net. He is awesome.
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In all fairness the first line will stay intact and they should because they are he only line that hustles, and actually scores, if a replacement were to happen with the first line I would prefer nino taking moulsons spot. And dropping moulson to second line with franz and PA(we will then see if they are the 30/20 goal scorers people think they are, which they are not without JT.
But knowing the islanders none of these cases will happen, so as Lon as nino plays with Martin I’ll be happy. Last thing our team needs is to have our “#1″ prospect getting jumped.
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Yuck is what first comes to mind. So many average players to choose from. Hopefully El Nino is a spark and not more of the same.
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Yes, agree that KO is not living up to the “A” and should be scratched. Also, what does Tim Wallace need to do to get a shot. Is he a diamond in the rough or another Brad Lauer (63 goals in 58 AHL games/2 in 33 NHL). He can’t be any worse than what we have been playing. Nabakov is a stupid move as well. Lets play the guy who wants to leave more than the guy sitting who is getting pissed (and then there is the guy in the box who still thinks he’s Patrick Roy). God Hates Us Again!!!! Just win…1940!!!!
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nino,haley,gillies should be in the line up,at least we would go down fightin…
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My thoughts exactly…We can only sit here and pray to the hockey gods my friend.
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I am a big fan of Okie but he looks awful this year. This is the guy who was talking up his summer of working out and working on his game. Maybe his golf game at this point. Or, it may be just that Kyle is no better than a 3rd line player which may be the case anyway when kids like Strome and whoever we draft in the top 3 this year come up.
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okposo in a nutshell. Cant skate, cant score and refuses to hit or fore check
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Bailey in a nutshell no heart, always seems disinterested. Would be better served playing a pickup game somewhere.
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um is there even a question as to who Nino should replace…
Jay Pandolofo clearly…
I know Okie’s been sub par no doubt, but even at a discount he’s better than the player Jay is at his old age…rid the grandpa effect and get some youthful energy out there…D too. Mottau is slow!!! gonna get toasted against by speed by anyone other than the Rags 4th line.
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poor verbage my apologies, but you get the point. Old men = slow. This might have flew back in the old NHL, but speed dominates the game now. If you aren’t taking toughness out of the lineup anyone slow should go.
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I don’t get the demand for Montoya to play. I like him, but its not like he’s playing lights out. He gave up 3 goals in relief of Nabby and 4 goals in the game he started, which despite the high save total, he didn’t play all that great. I think all 3 goalies have played relatively well and the focus of this distaste should be on the team in front of them. Lack of offense and a mediocre at best defense in front of them is not helping. Hopefully Nino can give them a shot in the arm tonight. Also, I like the way Haley came up last year and brought some fight for this team, but have you checked his stats so far this year? Do we really need a guy that’s gonna sit on the bench for 45 minutes and come out to fight? If you want to see someone brought up, I would much rather see DiBo or Ullstrom, both have been producing.
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Glad to see someone else gets it. Montoya has definitely been good for the Isles, but if he becomes #1 you will start to see more of his flaws. DP really is the guy that has the ability to carry the team. I’m not sure if he can still do it, but he’s their best shot. And same for Haley. Loved his grit, but he’s a 3-4 minute a game player. Not worth it. They need to find someone who can give the minutes. Martin is close, but really an enforcer.
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Hope nino gets some good ice time and jump starts this organization
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I think Dipietro is injured. All season Dipietro is playing or backing up if he is not injured plus its Isles Rangers, Wang would fire coach if he made Dipietro sit in the stands.
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You know theres a problem when your best goalie (Montoya) the guy who has played the best so far (and the guy you gelled and finished hot with last year) has played 1 game in 4 weeks…while at the same time the team has gone 1-6-3
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I wish half this team could be scratched. Especially Okposo, Bailey, Comeau, Rolston, Reasoner and Pandolfo. They are the reason why this team sucks. We knew the defense was pretty lousy outside of Streit and were probably counting on too much from Hamonic and MacDonald. But it’s the almost complete lack of secondary scoring that is absolutely killing this team. Each of Okposo, Bailey, Comeau, Rolston and Reasoner should at minimum be able to chip in 10-15 goals apiece over the course of the season. They have 3 goals total so far as a group!!! That is absolutely pathetic.
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This game is huge, if they don’t come out swinging then all is lost. I wouldn’t sit Okposo, Baily or Comeau. Sit Rolston or Pandolfo. I don’t think sitting the kids is going to help. I do think that Cappy needs to tinker with the lines. If I were Cappy I would have them like so.
Grabner Tavares Martin
Nino Baily Okposo
Comeau Neilson Moulson
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interesting line combos, but i like Martin on JT’s line with Grabs, oddly enough. I have always said JT needs players with speed and playmaking abilities around him, so this would traditionally be out of the flavor I would like to taste, but with the lack of secondary scoring, I think this isnt that bad…however, you gotta roll 4 lines this way and that means less ice for JT…can we bring up haley and send down Pandolfo already…cmon.
I think you’d be better served double shifting JT and playing with 3 Center’s than having Pandolfo fill a roster slot…plus haley can fight and get under the skin of anyone we play..just try it? just the tip?
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I don’t think you need to roll 4 lines. They need to play the best players as often as possible. I would love Haley and Gillies to be in the lineup. I don’t care how little they play. This team has NO identity.
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Using 3 lines would tire them out. You can mix and match the lines all you want. It is not going to change the lack of talent or desire on the team.
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Why would you demote PA to the 4th line? He’s one of about 6 players on this team contributing any offense whatsoever.
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PA is slow and makes too many poor plays. I like him but someone needs to be placed there. That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t have him on the PP which is where he excels.
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I think he is the one player outside of JT that actually looks better than last season. He might make some bad plays here and there, but most of the other forwards don’t make ANY plays. He deserves top six minutes on this team right now as Okposo, Bailey Comeau, Roston and Reasoner do NOTHING. They don’t hit, they don’t generate any offense, they aren’t fast, they don’t shoot the puck. They do nothing. PAP is an All-Star compared to them so far this season.
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PA on the court line lmao. No thanks.
Moulson-Tavares-Grabner
Niederreiter-Nielsen-Parenteau
Martin-Bailey-Okposo
Rolston-Reasoner-ComeauWhen is PA Parenteau going to get respect? What does he have to do? He’s almost a point a game player this season.
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I don’t think it would hurt one bit to try Martin or Gilles on Tavares line.
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You must have been too young to watch Clark as there is no comparison , he was one of the premier power forwards to ever play the game , Trevor is trevor.
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Sorry NSCanada. The only thing Trevor Gilles has in common with Clark Gilles is the last name. There are few players in the entire league NOW that you can compare with Clark Gilles, yet alone someone on the Isles. The Islanders issues this year are not because they don’t have a thumper to play on the JT line. It’s because guys who were given new contracts aren’t playing with enough desperation and grit.
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Showing casing nabby . Guy vital part of any future trade. Nobody wants any of our underperforming players less he’s attached.Hope he plays great and spurs a house clean
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I think they should lose some more , then make a “run for the playoffs in febuary” pick 3rd in the entry draft (wishful thinking) maybe 1st or 2nd.Then maybe then ill stop making foolish bets with my friends which includes my Islanders finishing higher than another NHL team….sigh
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Ha, I made the same type of bet with one of my friends. I still think I have a chance, but the Jets are ahead of the Isles at this point…sigh!
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28 teams are ahead of the Islanders….
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Look for Avery to be on the loose with no one in our lineup to police him and the rest of the rags. I just hope that Garth wakes from his acoma and calls up Haley or Gillies. Haley = Happy fanbase = more tickets sold. Grow up Garth.
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This is a must win game.
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I really hope i’mthe wrong butw this game has recipe for disaster written all over it. I give it ten minutes before avery slams into Nabby w no penalty and no immediate retaliation whatsover. That should set a good tone for half the building of Rags fans to feed off of. Can’t afford to give up the first, our confidence is nil. Any word whether Haley called up? He pummeled Avery last time they met and made him a non factor. Okposo, comeau, and bailey need to step the f%#k up big time tonight. Hit EVERYBODY, win the puck battles, and hit the net for christs sake!!!
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Islanders suck god dammit.
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Avery will mostly likely take a shot at nino or JT. Martin has to be in second line with nino and franz.
My lines tonight would be(realistically)
Moulson-JT-grabner
Martin-Franz-Nino
Comeau-bailey-Okposo( They do well together)
Rolston-reasoner-PA-
Spot On! That should be the lineup.
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Why do so many people on this site dislike PAP? Maybe he’d be a 4th liner on the Bruins or Canucks, but on this team with 2-goal Rolston, 1-goal Bailey, 0-goal Okposo, 0-goal Reasoner and 0-point Comeau, Parenteau is a top six forward. He’s one of the few players that has actually improved from last season and he was the star of the game in the Isles one win in the past month. What does this guy have to do?
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This team needs more teeth…nobody wants to hit..Id play montoya, nabby looks out of it…he dont give a sh%t about this team..hes playing for himself and not the team…Wonder if cappy is being told to start him if not im doubting this guy decsions
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with this expected soft as jello line up i hope something good is on the history channel,,you know the rags will have a tough lineup,they always do,gone are the days of godard,cairns and simon
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Any chance Wang fires himself?
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Wang fires on himself?
You mean like his close friend and former business partner who recently committed suicide did while under investigation for Securities fraud?
Wait, did I read that right?
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make a statement. Bench KO and rip that A off his sweater. Bench Comaeu and play the trainer. Bench the bench coach and promote the zamboni driver.
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I think someone should ask the question to Cappy if DP is hurt. He has to be.
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Totally agree…we need offense. Can’t win games being lowest scoring team in the league. Goaltending is not our problem just a scapegoat.
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Enough with the DP obsession. He is not playing, did not play to start the season when he was healthy so enough with the conspiracy nonsense. This team can’t score and is 1-1-1 in DP’s 3 starts. He is not the problem yet he’s all people want to talk about. Get over it already.
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Show’s how much team could use Konopka. Yea Garth get rid of someone who wanted to be here.
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They went 1-17-3 with Konopka so he wasn’t exactly Gretzky. The team has the least goals for in the whole league and an old and slow D.
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What this team really didn’t need was Rolston and Pandolfo. Haley and or Gillies needs to be in this lineup!
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It sounds like Okposo is the scratch tonight
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this is the game we ALWAYS lose to the rangers. so im preparred for a 5-1 beat down. the rangers will score within the first 10 minutes and it ll be all downhill from there. gaborik is going to have a multi goal game. dubinsky will score along with 2 PP goals. the isles will get less than 30 shots on goal and go 0-4 on the PP. our lone goal will come when we are down 4-0.
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gonna be a long one tonite…. Maybe Caps will pull the Nabby in the second peroid….
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Martin dish out those punishing hits on the Rags. tonight. Your the NHL’s best and the stats show it
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Who is anyone kidding.
The Ilses are out of the playoffs already.
Look at the standings. The Ilses have to leap frog or do better than at least 8 teams ahead of them. They need to perform over .700 hockey from now till the end of season just to get an 8th seed. Com’on does anyone think this Isles are that good to be .700?
Wang needs to sell. Just put it on the market. Having the isles on the market gives this orgnaization some hope (even with the risk of moving). The culture and optics of this organistion has been runied. IT CANNOT BE FIXED!!-
This is the magic of overtime losses in the NHL. It can provide the illusion that the lousy team you root for still has a chance to make the playoffs.
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I can’t tell you how happy I am Okposo is taking a seat. What a bust! He is the worst Islander by far and that’s really hard to do. All you have to do is stand on the ice and do nothing and your better than Bailey, Comeau, Eaton, Mottau, & Pandolfo.
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Really. Bailey being terrible is not a surprise. Comeau being awful is a little more surprising, but he’a always been wildly inconsistent. Plus, neither of those players are necessarily in the long-term plans. However, Okposo’s passive, seemingly-disinterested play is a shock. Are there really going to be 4 more years of this?
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Hopefully this doesn’t do more damage to KO. I don’t think it’s fair to him. Hopefully ElNino brings it tonight. Again, I question Cappy line combo of Nino, Reasner and Comeau. Just don’t see much happening with this combo.
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Okposo has been absolutely terrible and deserves to be scratched. At least Bailey and Comeau carry the puck into the offensive zone once in a while (they don’t know what to do with it when they get there but they do occasionally get there). Okposo has brought absolutely nothing to the table this season. I wanted him to be the next Jarome Iginla as much as anyone. As of right now him being the next Trent Hunter would be light-years better than where he’s at right now.
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WHen you are givin a new contract and the A and you have no goals and are minus seven you earn a new perspective IMO. I loved KO too. Was gonna get his jersey. But he needs to sit this one out and do some reflection.
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“Nabby 1-4-1……yes yes keep playing Nabby so we can see more se we know waht to offer (less and less when he is 1-10-1….and keep building that rust on Montoya and DiPietro as they sit)”, Mr X. Eastern Conference GM…
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2 players that would have helped this team more so than Pandolfo, Rolston and Reasoner up front are Jason Arnott and Jamie Langenbrunner, both signed with St. Louis this season. I thought originally that Garth was doing a good job at rebuilding the Islanders through the draft, but his ineptitude to surround the youth of this team with a mix of toughness and grit is clearly evident. Look no further than the Boston Bruins roster as an example.
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Rebuilding through the draft, you say?
With a back-up goalie as GM?
With no Assistant GM?
With no Head of Player Development?
With the fewest scouting staff in the League?
With Hockey Operations budget gutted by Wang?
You can call it “rebuilding”, I call it criminal fraud.
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I believe Okiposo would pass through waivers between his never being a 20 goal scorer, his anti fighting belief, and his playing like a girl, and his multi million dollar contract…I bet he would pass through waivers.
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I really hope to hear through the silence of the arena tonight Fire Snow, Sell Wong chants. Its becoming increasingly easier to hear evrything on TV during Islander games. Im KO’d with Strep so i have to watch from home! Also although i love em Butchie needs to be shown the door. I love the idea of an ex Islander doing the games but maybe someone a little more current and younger!
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Leaving work now to go to the massacre, can’t wait to see the isles get blown out and be outnumbered 4-1 by rags fans. What a wonderful life Garth and Wang have created for me…WANG PLEASE SELL THE TEAM
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Can someone show Cappy or the entire team a video of Bruce Boudreau screaming at his Caps team that aired on 24/7 on HBO!!
Like he said numerous times during that series when the Caps were on a losing streak, “I’m sick and tired of losing.” “I’m sick and tired of you guys looking like someone should feel sorry for you guys.”
Can Cappy stand up before he loses his job and get mad, shake something up, I just dont get it right now.
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I hope Cappy has a rotating doghouse because there a lot of players who deserve to be benched, besides Okposo and Comeau. How Josh Bailey has not been benched yet is beyond me? Although, Bailey has been a little better of late but not good enough. Comeau def deserved it. This is an epidemic. Even Frans Nielsen seems to have regressed a bit this year. Who has been solid all year? After Tavares and Martin, what forwards have shown up every single game this year. I dont think you can say anybody. Martin and Tavares have been consistant.
If these guys dont show up tonight, Snow needs to start dealing guys or needs to fire Capuano. One or the other. Something has to be done. What is it with this team and November and December?
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Where are you Jimmy Devellano? Curious, if Wang ran Comp Assoc like this where would he be today? you always hire the best people, not a guy who had absolutely no experience running a team. Also, look into their scouting system they do not even have a head scout-you might as well have me draft people, but at least I would not be drafting SMALL PEOPLE
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LETS GO ISLANDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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While I love Kyle he has been playing like crap and he’s one of those players that needs to sit I don’t think the game will do him any good but frankly he’s been awful
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this low talent,draft party organization hyped up ko to be our crosby or gretzky,,
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Two goals for Avery already. More than KO, Coma, and Failey combined, and Avery actually hits!
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Isles have 29 goals in 14 games this season, that’s pretty remarkable. No other team has less than 35. Every time they play, I expect them to get shut out and am almost stunned when they score a goal.
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Howie witha little jab at the soft Isles! Isles right now being pused around as usual! How Martin doesnt drop Del Zotto is beyond me!
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I was about to rip Martin for hugging till he left the ice holding his shoulder. Oh well there goes all of our toughness.
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Garden is rockin tonight
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Thank you to the Rangers fans at the game tonight who are supporting the Islanders payroll. We appreciate it. Please buy some extra beers tonight. We need a star by the trading deadline.
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Islanders D is really hampered now – Streit is smart but VERY slowwwwww – Staios is too slow as well – Jurcina has been bad tonight – Mottau + Jurcina was terrible just now – Mottau + Staios wasn’t much better
Amac & Hamonic are solid, but we need some help in this area now
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Nabby is by far the best goalie on this team. If Snow trades him, it means Snow has given up on the season.
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Snow gave up on this season when his big offseason moves were Rolston, Pandolfo and Staios. In other words, this season is just like all the others.
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thank you bailey, arrggghhhh
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Every night is a loss. Now comes the Ranger hangover for a loss against Habs.
Snow the coward hides….
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At 9:30 p.m. on November 14, I officially state that Josh Bailey is an absolute bust. Yet, Garth Snow still has a job. It is good to have your owner in your back pocket.
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Im not watching another game as long as Josh Bailey is on this team!! When he goes, I will attend or watch games agan. Im fed up with this prick. Enough is enough. This piece of you know what gives up the puck play after play. Cappy can keep benching people but as long as he doesnt bench Bailey, he is a fool.
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It’s a disgrace to look around in the coliseum and see it loaded with blue shirts(not counting the white) then followed by chants outside.
On a good note nino looked good(wen he was on the ice) not enough ice time.
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Here’s the Islanders’ recipe this season. Good goaltending + no scoring + bonehead mistakes = loss. Repeat.
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if this isn’t proof enough that bailey is detrimental to this team than idk what is…he isnt a rookie anymore and he belongs in the ahl…that was disgraceful…please mr Wang and sell this team
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Bailey cost us the game. No doubt.
On another note, I didn’t miss Okposo even a little bit. I can’t believe how far he has fallen. At one point, I thought both he & Bailey would be guys that would be big pieces in turning this franchise around.
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Outplayed them amidst ridiculous call after call. Sorry, but you can never make that kind of play up the middle of your zone w 5 minutes left in a tie game. I hope his teammates lambast him and Capuano sits the idiot. Bailey is supposed to be our future??? This guy is invisible almost every game. Hell, even Rolston, Reasoner, and Pandolfo chipped in tonight and they have no business holding a spot on this team. Solid game for the most part but come up short yet again.
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Okposo could of replaced rolston tho. That’s for sure
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Baileys play cost them the game on a brutal play, he should be banished to minors for awhile….this is year 4…he has gotten worse each year…GOooooo Garth!
Watching Cappys Press Conference…now he is just happy to be in the game…his days are numbered…too bad cause its Garth that should go. Stability you say…6 years of failure is not stability.
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bailey is a BUST….face it….bring up dibo and dehann… enough already
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Hey Don in Levitttown, yeah normally you would think so, but Wang isn’t going to use any proceeds to bolster this garbage team, he will stick it in some money making entity and leave it there collecting interest, and that is our future, with this moron owner.
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Told my fellow Islander fans & Botta Owes Me a Six pack.
“Okposo”, is no Jerome Iginla/captain, He’s A Bust. Refuses To play
With The Strength Of a (Now} Full Grown Man.
Now tell me Honestly, You would not have traded Okposo to Minnesota 2 years ago for Gaborik?
I said then I would have offered To drive him to the airport. Other then that brief 1st season he has never lived up to the hype IMO. The Cat may Now be Outta The Bag, Okposo & his Contract maybe Un-tradeable.
We shall see.As for all the Die-hards on this site…
I agree with the many who say Wang or Snow or Both are really the ones who should Go.
Charles Wang has no Financial Pride in The Hockey Team He Currently Owns & It Showes, he could have spent 12 million more this summer had he wanted.In the End, “You my fellow Diehard Islander Fans”…… are the Best Story!
This is a Real Lackluster Run Franchise & alot of us now agree…
Time For a Real Change Not Just Firing Capuano.. He can Only Coach what they Give him.
Bottom line Soon it will 19+ Years without an advancement past The first round of the Playoffs. For Any Team, In Any League, Of Any Sport, Thats Pathetic!
Wheres Gary Bettman, when we Really Need Him?
Wang/Snow Must Go!
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When they bring up the topic of great rivalries is the the Isles rags even mentioned anymore? New NHL ruined it! I miss the old NHL. Turned it off after the MArtin hugfest!
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KEVIN!!!! probably late and you wont read this but…
your kidding me, other responsibilities??
This is the problem with anything associated with the Islanders (not counting CB). It’s all bush league and amatuer hour.
You would never read that on a blog for any other sports team. Not even if the blog was Colts vs Dolphins, or Clippers vs Bucks.
We need someone from the top (hmmm Wang) that leads the overall vibe of this organization. Tjis team will lose forever without a strong rudder steering this ship.
Lifelong Isles fan since 1974!!!!
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What the hell is your problem WANG?? Are you in a coma? And Snow, when are you gonna grow a pair and make a statement? Where is the accountability? Admit your mistakes and own up to it. It’s not about you, it’s about a once proud franchise and passionate fans that deserve a competative team. And Wang, take your EGO somewhere else and hire knowledgable and respected hockey people to run this organization. Let them do their job and stop micromanaging. I’m sick of your shit. This organization has been abused long enough. Sell already and end the misery.
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Guys, it is plain to see that Capuano has his hands tied or Baileys ass would be benched. Bailey may be the worst fwd to ever don an Islander sweater. The real culprit in all of this is Garth Snow. Nothing is going to change until he is gone. Wang wont fire him so I guess we are stuck with him. I wish I knew a may to get him fired. As far as Bailey goes, Snow is covering his ass for his horrible trade when he passed up on Schenn. Anyone who coaches this team will have their hands tied. That is why we can not hire a real coach because they would laugh at Snow when he tries to control every aspect of the team. Neil Smith sound familar. Snow is basically monopolizing this team with his puppet coaches and reporters who cover this team. Where is he in all of this? Never to be heard from. It really is something. The future is extremely bleak for us. The Snow Must Go movement by all of us is going to have to organized and ruthless.





we want Montoya. this is ridiculous.